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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by JandDGreens
I would do a flush on the radiator, so many people don't know that tap water is the worst thing to put into their coolant system. Over time it rust and will gum up everything. I would still check that thermostat again they are cheap enough and drill a pin hole in it to insure that the air will be purged out of the system. the one thing about building up our rigs is it adds to the strain on the engine witch increases the heat it generates. I hope you get to the bottom of this and please post what ends up fixing the problem.
Do you think that this jeep is too built to be on the road? Might sound like a dumb question but you never know. The PO towed it around everywhere as a toy, so I'm really the first one to DD it after all the mods.
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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 10:52 AM
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Do you think that this jeep is too built to be on the road? Might sound like a dumb question but you never know. The PO towed it around everywhere as a toy, so I'm really the first one to DD it after all the mods.
No. I'm lifted, on 35's, with 4.88's, and a stroked motor, and it goes on road and offroad, zero issues. Stock cooling system. Just change the rad and flush the system already, LOL
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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 10:54 AM
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not with those gears. Would make sense if you were pushing 35's on stock gears to 70 mph, but gearing should take care of that issue.

I keep going back to the PO "towing it everywhere". if he didn't set the t-case and trans properly, wouldn't the trans get hot from oil not moving through it? damaging it, then next time you run it down the highway, create excessive heat in the cooler then heat up the engine?

check your trans fluid. if it smells burnt, you may have bigger problems.

Still haven't said if you can see through your radiator/condenser/trans cooler tho....
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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 11:38 AM
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not with those gears. Would make sense if you were pushing 35's on stock gears to 70 mph, but gearing should take care of that issue.

I keep going back to the PO "towing it everywhere". if he didn't set the t-case and trans properly, wouldn't the trans get hot from oil not moving through it? damaging it, then next time you run it down the highway, create excessive heat in the cooler then heat up the engine?

check your trans fluid. if it smells burnt, you may have bigger problems.

Still haven't said if you can see through your radiator/condenser/trans cooler tho....
What do you mean by not setting the tcase and tranny properly? I haven't said if you could see through the radiator and other coolers because like I mentioned, previously, I'm not home and won't be home until a week or two, and my jeep is at home. Hence why I haven't done anything to it or posted updates. Just trying to get as many pointers as I can right now, that way when I do get back home to the jeep I can check all of these.
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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 11:58 AM
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this applies to flat towing behind another vehicle. if "towed everywhere" means on a trailer, then disregard.

to properly flat tow: Set Tcase to neutral, trans to Park.

if PO stuck trans in neutral, fluid wasn't circulating around moving parts in trans causing premature wear to bearings and areas that are normally lubricated.

Did PO trailer or flat tow?
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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by denverd1
this applies to flat towing behind another vehicle. if "towed everywhere" means on a trailer, then disregard.

to properly flat tow: Set Tcase to neutral, trans to Park.

if PO stuck trans in neutral, fluid wasn't circulating around moving parts in trans causing premature wear to bearings and areas that are normally lubricated.

Did PO trailer or flat tow?
OOOOHHHHHH!!! Yea no. Haha. He trailer towed it. Yea, I'm aware of flat towing. He trailered it everywhere.
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back to your cooling system. mud in the radiator, etc...
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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by denverd1
back to your cooling system. mud in the radiator, etc...
Yes, I agree. I'll post updates as soon as I get to work on it. Thanks.
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 12:07 AM
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Well... Flushed the system good, replaced pump, radiator, and a couple of hoses. Still heating up. My only other guess is that the PO sold it to me knowing it had a warped head or something bigger wrong with it. I have no coolant in my oil or vice versa. No white residue under oil cap nor white smoke from exhaust. I'm almost sure the issue is something other than the cooling system because looking back at our discussions (the PO's and mine) previous to me buying the jeep, he was a bit shady here and there, and dropped hints that I should've picked up but didn't. At this point I'm open to any suggestions. Figured id repost the symptoms to refresh everyone's mind. Here it is... Heats up only at high speeds, id say at 50mph and above on a 80° F D day. When it does heat up, I have to run it at lower speeds for a bit for it to cool back down. It doesn't really heat up at lower speeds.
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 09:04 AM
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I'm in the same boat you are. The PO of my XJ used hose water to fill the cooling system and after all new cooling components and 3 flushes I am still working to get the cooling system to a satisfactory level of performance.

When I got the XJ, the hoses were 70% clogged with sludge and the coolant was mud brown. After multiple flushes over the past year the coolant is staying greener for longer. I did 2 total flushes and a heater core backflush myself, and recently had a shop do a professional flush with chemical detergents and stripping agents. The professional flush had the cooling system working perfect for about 2 months, but I am back to battling the issue again.

Anyhow, just showing you that I know how frustrating this issue is! I just ordered some hood vents and that is my next step to help the cooling system work more efficiently, so that might be a step for you to look at also.
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by JSaenz
Well... Flushed the system good, replaced pump, radiator, and a couple of hoses. Still heating up. My only other guess is that the PO sold it to me knowing it had a warped head or something bigger wrong with it. I have no coolant in my oil or vice versa. No white residue under oil cap nor white smoke from exhaust. I'm almost sure the issue is something other than the cooling system because looking back at our discussions (the PO's and mine) previous to me buying the jeep, he was a bit shady here and there, and dropped hints that I should've picked up but didn't. At this point I'm open to any suggestions. Figured id repost the symptoms to refresh everyone's mind. Here it is... Heats up only at high speeds, id say at 50mph and above on a 80° F D day. When it does heat up, I have to run it at lower speeds for a bit for it to cool back down. It doesn't really heat up at lower speeds.
Are you using the gauge in the cab, or have you verified the temps with an IR thermometer?

Pick up an IR thermometer if you don't already have one. Drive it until the issue arises. Pull over and get the numbers when it does. Measure at the inlet and outlet hoses on the rad. Record the results. Do this several times to get an average. Report back.

Also have you done a test on the coolant to see if exhaust gases are present?

Anything blocking the airflow to the rad? (Like a winch, or lightbar, etc?)

Replaced the temp sensor?
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by roninofako
Are you using the gauge in the cab, or have you verified the temps with an IR thermometer?

Pick up an IR thermometer if you don't already have one. Drive it until the issue arises. Pull over and get the numbers when it does. Measure at the inlet and outlet hoses on the rad. Record the results. Do this several times to get an average. Report back.

Also have you done a test on the coolant to see if exhaust gases are present?

Anything blocking the airflow to the rad? (Like a winch, or lightbar, etc?)

Replaced the temp sensor?
I haven't done any of these. Just curious, why would recording the temp with a thermometer instead of using the gauge be a better idea? It's getting hot no doubt, it'll get to the point where itll spit out coolant. It does have a light bar and winch blocking the rad.
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Hopkins
I'm in the same boat you are. The PO of my XJ used hose water to fill the cooling system and after all new cooling components and 3 flushes I am still working to get the cooling system to a satisfactory level of performance.

When I got the XJ, the hoses were 70% clogged with sludge and the coolant was mud brown. After multiple flushes over the past year the coolant is staying greener for longer. I did 2 total flushes and a heater core backflush myself, and recently had a shop do a professional flush with chemical detergents and stripping agents. The professional flush had the cooling system working perfect for about 2 months, but I am back to battling the issue again.

Anyhow, just showing you that I know how frustrating this issue is! I just ordered some hood vents and that is my next step to help the cooling system work more efficiently, so that might be a step for you to look at also.
Yea, frustrating is an understatement haha! I already have hood vents on mine
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 11:02 AM
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Here's a picture of the front end. The best one I've got at the moment
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by JSaenz
I haven't done any of these. Just curious, why would recording the temp with a thermometer instead of using the gauge be a better idea? It's getting hot no doubt, it'll get to the point where itll spit out coolant. It does have a light bar and winch blocking the rad.
Because you're getting ACTUAL numbers, the gauge in the cabin is not really that accurate...gives you a ballpark. Actual numbers are always better. Plus you get to see how the rad is performing, at the inlet and outlet. If it's spitting coolant, then yes, you're getting hot. This wasn't stated previously...but good to know.

At this point, I'm going to suggest that you remove the winch, and lightbar, and see what happens. Could very well be an airflow issue. Also have the coolant tested for exhaust gasses.
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