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Cooper Discoverer M&S. I never thought about explaining the grass, like "what grass in the desert?" Dry grass about three foot tall. Cattle grazing foothills. Anybody ever quail hunt on the side hill and step in a pile of dry leaves? Slide big time. I am thinking that if I had a more aggressive tread, the tread might tear up the grass and find traction on the dirt. I really don't know. The reason for my question. Gary
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Cooper discoverer at3, discoverer stt, discoverer stt pro, discoverer maxx? Still not sure what tire you have. If you have one of their mud tires already, there's a great chance another mud tire will not help.
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I would think the hill wasnt as dry as you thought, or much steeper than you thought. Im glad for you that you kept her on all fours.
I have Mastercraft Courser ATXs ('discount' version of the Discoverer AT3s) and ive had acceptable traction with them on two xjs now.
I have Mastercraft Courser ATXs ('discount' version of the Discoverer AT3s) and ive had acceptable traction with them on two xjs now.
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and he already has the all terrain Coopers. Going to the "discount" version isn't going to help h ahah. Was that what you were suggesting? Or that the traction should have been there under the supposed conditions the op is saying? Haha just for clarification.
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I've watched this thread for a minute now. Time to put in the .02
Grass, tall or short, might as well be ice. That **** is slippery, dry or green. Side hilling on that is an even bigger no-no. Side-hilling in general is a bad practice offroad. That's how people roll their ****.
Gravity is a law, but respected, can really help you. You were right to point downhill, but once sideways, you can't always get that nose pointed downhill. You got lucky.
Best practice for uphill is to point uphill. get to where you want to go at the bottom first, run straight up, and stop. Turns on a hill and sideways traversing are bad juju. The laws of gravity can't be broken, haha
Try to break those laws, take shortcuts across the hill, and you may or may not pay...better to go with odds that are in your favor, but just my opinion.
Grass, tall or short, might as well be ice. That **** is slippery, dry or green. Side hilling on that is an even bigger no-no. Side-hilling in general is a bad practice offroad. That's how people roll their ****.
Gravity is a law, but respected, can really help you. You were right to point downhill, but once sideways, you can't always get that nose pointed downhill. You got lucky.
Best practice for uphill is to point uphill. get to where you want to go at the bottom first, run straight up, and stop. Turns on a hill and sideways traversing are bad juju. The laws of gravity can't be broken, haha
Try to break those laws, take shortcuts across the hill, and you may or may not pay...better to go with odds that are in your favor, but just my opinion.
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I've watched this thread for a minute now. Time to put in the .02
Grass, tall or short, might as well be ice. That **** is slippery, dry or green. Side hilling on that is an even bigger no-no. Side-hilling in general is a bad practice offroad. That's how people roll their ****.
Gravity is a law, but respected, can really help you. You were right to point downhill, but once sideways, you can't always get that nose pointed downhill. You got lucky.
Best practice for uphill is to point uphill. get to where you want to go at the bottom first, run straight up, and stop. Turns on a hill and sideways traversing are bad juju. The laws of gravity can't be broken, haha
Try to break those laws, take shortcuts across the hill, and you may or may not pay...better to go with odds that are in your favor, but just my opinion.
Grass, tall or short, might as well be ice. That **** is slippery, dry or green. Side hilling on that is an even bigger no-no. Side-hilling in general is a bad practice offroad. That's how people roll their ****.
Gravity is a law, but respected, can really help you. You were right to point downhill, but once sideways, you can't always get that nose pointed downhill. You got lucky.
Best practice for uphill is to point uphill. get to where you want to go at the bottom first, run straight up, and stop. Turns on a hill and sideways traversing are bad juju. The laws of gravity can't be broken, haha
Try to break those laws, take shortcuts across the hill, and you may or may not pay...better to go with odds that are in your favor, but just my opinion.

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I've watched this thread for a minute now. Time to put in the .02
Grass, tall or short, might as well be ice. That **** is slippery, dry or green. Side hilling on that is an even bigger no-no. Side-hilling in general is a bad practice offroad. That's how people roll their ****.
Gravity is a law, but respected, can really help you. You were right to point downhill, but once sideways, you can't always get that nose pointed downhill. You got lucky.
Best practice for uphill is to point uphill. get to where you want to go at the bottom first, run straight up, and stop. Turns on a hill and sideways traversing are bad juju. The laws of gravity can't be broken, haha
Try to break those laws, take shortcuts across the hill, and you may or may not pay...better to go with odds that are in your favor, but just my opinion.
Grass, tall or short, might as well be ice. That **** is slippery, dry or green. Side hilling on that is an even bigger no-no. Side-hilling in general is a bad practice offroad. That's how people roll their ****.
Gravity is a law, but respected, can really help you. You were right to point downhill, but once sideways, you can't always get that nose pointed downhill. You got lucky.
Best practice for uphill is to point uphill. get to where you want to go at the bottom first, run straight up, and stop. Turns on a hill and sideways traversing are bad juju. The laws of gravity can't be broken, haha
Try to break those laws, take shortcuts across the hill, and you may or may not pay...better to go with odds that are in your favor, but just my opinion.



