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Old 03-17-2012, 09:31 PM
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We'll be working on my sons jeep tomorrow I'll try and get some pics of it, it's made to fit the jeep and replaces the stock muffler and tail pipe but is 2-1/4 in and 2-1/2 out. less than an hour to install.
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Originally Posted by Atmos
quiet? hmm I might consider a glass pack then I dont want it super loud.
does it just sound like a clean sounding stock exhaust or what?
does it add any hp or let it breathe better? dont know much about exhaust system
what about this cheapo one
http://www.ironrockoffroad.com/Merch...egory_Code=PFX
not a glass pack but still. just want something that isnt stock
Ya it's kinda nice since it doesn't drone much in the cabin. It doesn't sound stock it has more of a deep rumble. The thing that I'm not liking is that it doesn't sound as aggressive as I was hoping. As for the kit your looking at I would forget about it, having a 2.5" isn't going to do anything if everything from the header to the muffler is still 2.25". Technically a glass pack is the most free flowing muffler you can get but there is no power gains. There is no such thing as a performance muffler. It's just advertising
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My old muffler rusted and developed a huge leak, so I just bought a Flowmaster 44 off of ebay from this guy, best price I could find
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ht_2239wt_1270

As far as installation, I simply cut the stock muffler out, went to my local auto parts store, picked up a 12" piece of 2.25" with a slip fit, cut it to fit, put the slip fit over the stock pipe leading to the tailpipe, but ended up welding it because the stock piping as some wierd lumps on it.

Love the way it sounds though, it growls but isn't ricey. Just what I wanted
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Originally Posted by Jonwebb
but there is no power gains. There is no such thing as a performance muffler. It's just advertising
so wait then whats the point
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Originally Posted by l 95 Trans Am l
My old muffler rusted and developed a huge leak, so I just bought a Flowmaster 44 off of ebay from this guy, best price I could find
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ht_2239wt_1270

As far as installation, I simply cut the stock muffler out, went to my local auto parts store, picked up a 12" piece of 2.25" with a slip fit, cut it to fit, put the slip fit over the stock pipe leading to the tailpipe, but ended up welding it because the stock piping as some wierd lumps on it.

Love the way it sounds though, it growls but isn't ricey. Just what I wanted
Thx could I find the same one at an autozone for cheaper
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so wait then whats the point
Honestly it just to sound cool lol. And can be a cheap alternative if you have a rusted busted muffler. And so auto parts companies can make money from people who believe their false advertisement
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Honestly it just to sound cool lol. And can be a cheap alternative if you have a rusted busted muffler. And so auto parts companies can make money from people who believe their false advertisement
so Ian on xtreme 4x4 promotes false advertising?
was just watching the other day and he put on a flowmaster 40 and was talking about plus 15
dont think he was kidding haha. dont they allow the engine to breath better?
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Originally Posted by Atmos
so Ian on xtreme 4x4 promotes false advertising?
was just watching the other day and he put on a flowmaster 40 and was talking about plus 15
dont think he was kidding haha. dont they allow the engine to breath better?

Better air flow means more power, granted it will usually be slight my nephew added 8hp on his '95 T/A by removing the stock exhaust and installing a true straight pipe system w/ duel Flowmasters. Better air flow means more power. Some mufflers restrict the airflow.
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A muffler won't do much if anything without a full exhaust upgrade. The whole point of a muffler is to cancel out sound waves from the exhaust gas by fitfully redirecting it in a different direction. Which means no matter what kind of muffler your using the exhaust gas is being constricted And if your still using the same crummy factory exhaust manifold or header which is designed to decrease performance in order to meet emmisions. Just welding a muffler on wont do anything for you in terms of noticeable performance. I know someone who put a flow aster on and their mpg dropped.
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Originally Posted by Jonwebb
A muffler won't do much if anything without a full exhaust upgrade. The whole point of a muffler is to cancel out sound waves from the exhaust gas by fitfully redirecting it in a different direction. Which means no matter what kind of muffler your using the exhaust gas is being constricted And if your still using the same crummy factory exhaust manifold or header which is designed to decrease performance in order to meet emmisions. Just welding a muffler on wont do anything for you in terms of noticeable performance. I know someone who put a flow aster on and their mpg dropped.
so it's not even worth it. any write ups or place to look for a complete exhaust overhaul?
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Have a glasspack on my straight pipe. It's not that bad. Sounds really nice when floored, kinda nice driving on the highway. I'm considering either removing it or maybe swapping a Flowmaster or something.
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Originally Posted by Atmos
so it's not even worth it. any write ups or place to look for a complete exhaust overhaul?
Search is pretty simple but there are a lot of conflicting arguments on here. Personally I would just leave it alone, from what I understand even a full exhaust upgrade from custom headers to larger pipe with performance cats don't do to much for 4.0 unless they are stroked or forced induction
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Originally Posted by Jonwebb
Search is pretty simple but there are a lot of conflicting arguments on here. Personally I would just leave it alone, from what I understand even a full exhaust upgrade from custom headers to larger pipe with performance cats don't do to much for 4.0 unless they are stroked or forced induction
cool I didnt really want to mess with it in the first place. seems frivolous
although, would you recommend a good replacement if I ever dent the **** out of mine?
glass pack from where
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Originally Posted by Atmos
cool I didnt really want to mess with it in the first place. seems frivolous
although, would you recommend a good replacement if I ever dent the **** out of mine?
glass pack from where
Advanedreillyzone all sell Thrush glass packs for $20ish dollars. It's the exact same thing as a cherry bomb and they both have the bright red paint. The only place around here (detroit) that carries legit cherry bomb glass packs are actual muffler shops. Other then that the only other place is online. Cherry bombs are normally a little priced around $30 but some people say they won't wear out as fast as thrush
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Originally Posted by Jonwebb
Advanedreillyzone all sell Thrush glass packs for $20ish dollars. It's the exact same thing as a cherry bomb and they both have the bright red paint. The only place around here (detroit) that carries legit cherry bomb glass packs are actual muffler shops. Other then that the only other place is online. Cherry bombs are normally a little priced around $30 but some people say they won't wear out as fast as thrush
sweet thanks I think I'll do that just for fun at $30


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