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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by mikeXJ1020
Very true but I already have, and have access to most of the tools needed. However I need a dial indicator, digital micrometer in lb Torque wrench, and the spanner tool which i will make. I plan on using new setup bearings so Ill just use the auto zone bearing splitters and pullers that ruin the bearings, but as long as they get them off.

I didn't mention this in the first Post but I have a little civic for the good MPGs, its also nice if I have my truck apart for a day or so and need to go somewhere. but i think the motor is developing a little rod knock unfortunately lol.

I have a spare C8.25 (29 spline) in my yard.
C8.25 (29 spline) and hp d30 under the truck now.

I have never done gears before although I read just about every writeup out there and feel totally confident that I could do it, and I really understand what every little adjustment does.

So maybe I will order the gears, the bearings and the tools while I give the spare C8.25 a shot and take my time. Once that's finished I dk if I should pull my front axle out or do it while its in the truck.

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theres a really cool tool i use that removes the bearings without damaging them.

ill have to find the part number on it, but it was a couple hundred.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by FrankZ
Dial indicator
Magnetic base
dont neet it


Shop press or a hf press or use a friends press

Bearing puller- borrow a friends or you could make something if your that broke

Bearing race installer- use a big socket or something in the press that fits the bearing,

FT lb Torque wrench- yeah you gotta have this

In lb Torque wrench- dont have to have it

Adjuster tool (DIY)- yeah you gotta have this to do it right

A little more than a couple hundred in tools friend.
Iv done it before on a limited budget too
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by N20jeep
theres a really cool tool i use that removes the bearings without damaging them.

ill have to find the part number on it, but it was a couple hundred.
yeah thats the Yukon Bearing puller, www.completeoffroad.com has it.

and I think im gonna get this package
http://roughcountry.com/gears/jeep-x...30HP8456M.html
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by mikeXJ1020
yeah thats the Yukon Bearing puller, www.completeoffroad.com has it.

and I think im gonna get this package
http://roughcountry.com/gears/jeep-x...30HP8456M.html
wow, that's a complete kit, alright! the price of the dana 30 carrier seems a lil steep though
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankZ
The OP has d30/8.25" listed under his rig, not D44's.
Thought i read d44 somewhere, my mistake.

so yes, no new carrier is needed
Originally Posted by N20jeep
bearing puller is needed, its very rare that you get the shims exactly right in the first shot. so sometimes the bearing will have to come back off the pinion and also sometimes the carrier (when shims are installed behind the carrier bearing)
This is exactly what setup bearings are for. but like frank said, buy BRAND NEW setup bearings
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by rweaver138

This is exactly what setup bearings are for. but like frank said, buy BRAND NEW setup bearings
its what proper tools are for.

i can use the new bearings in the install kit and remove them as many times as i want while getting the diff in spec.

the problem with grinding out the center of "setup bearings" is that they fit loosely and if you are setting up shims behind the bearing then they wont always press in firm enough to get an accurate reading.

but, do it as you want. ill just keep doing it the same way ive always done it....with no comebacks.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeXJ1020
yeah thats the Yukon Bearing puller, www.completeoffroad.com has it.
yup, thats it. works amazing
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by N20jeep
its what proper tools are for.

i can use the new bearings in the install kit and remove them as many times as i want while getting the diff in spec.

the problem with grinding out the center of "setup bearings" is that they fit loosely and if you are setting up shims behind the bearing then they wont always press in firm enough to get an accurate reading.

but, do it as you want. ill just keep doing it the same way ive always done it....with no comebacks.
hey to each their own. sounds like you work at a shop that installs gears, so the tool is necessary. most people just install gears once or maybe twice on their own rigs, so buying hundreds worth of tools isn't necessary.

i'm just offering an alternative
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by rweaver138
hey to each their own. sounds like you work at a shop that installs gears, so the tool is necessary. most people just install gears once or maybe twice on their own rigs, so buying hundreds worth of tools isn't necessary.

i'm just offering an alternative
fair enough
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 01:00 PM
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Don't forget there's that guy here on CF that's a Rough Country vendor. He says if you buy through him you get a 10% discount.


Edit: Grimus99xj if I recall correctly.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by N20jeep
its what proper tools are for.

i can use the new bearings in the install kit and remove them as many times as i want while getting the diff in spec.

the problem with grinding out the center of "setup bearings" is that they fit loosely and if you are setting up shims behind the bearing then they wont always press in firm enough to get an accurate reading.

but, do it as you want. ill just keep doing it the same way ive always done it....with no comebacks.
Hmm Well what if you didnt hone out the bearings too much, just enough where they were pretty snug and maybe even needed that 3 legged puller to help you slide them off a bit. I think/hope it will be alright and If i get the new bearings on and the pattern or backlash is no good, ill just tear em off and buy new ones.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 01:26 PM
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Also for anyone who has done gears before. On the Dana 30, the pinion depth shims are between the bearing cup and the housing correct?
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 01:31 PM
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Yes.
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Tural
wow, that's a complete kit, alright! the price of the dana 30 carrier seems a lil steep though
they don't list a kit for the 30/44 Cherokee
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Old Jan 30, 2011 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mikeXJ1020
Hmm Well what if you didnt hone out the bearings too much, just enough where they were pretty snug and maybe even needed that 3 legged puller to help you slide them off a bit. I think/hope it will be alright and If i get the new bearings on and the pattern or backlash is no good, ill just tear em off and buy new ones.
we shaved just enough off with a dremel so that they would come off with a bit of pressure

just make a few passes, throw it on the carrier and check for fitment.. rinse & repeat
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