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Old Aug 3, 2015 | 03:13 PM
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Grabbers are heavy. 55lbs for a 31x10.50. If you go to a 33x10.5 or a 35x12.5 its 62lbs. and 65lbs. respectively.
There not Grabbers just General AT2 tires don't have the money for grabbers just yet, but i was thinking on getting some 31s mud tires my friend has them on his cj7 and perform good and he said it's best since we live in Az but idk.
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Old Aug 3, 2015 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by XJlimitedx99
As much as I love this I dont think it really fits the discussion. Regearing puts more stress on spider gears, axle shafts, u-joints and anything else "downstream" of the diff because there is more torque being applied to the weight of the bigger tires. It also stresses the body more because the extra torque can twist everything up that much easier. It's only easier on the driveline components that are "upstream" of the differential, like driveshafts, tcase, trans, and motor.
Well you do have to take this pic with a grain of salt. Massive tarz (i guess 35x15.50's and up count as massive in my book.. No matter what, it doesnt end with gears. anything above a 33 starts to risk other components. Its the very reason you cant alter a river too much art once; there will be a potentially adverse effect downriver..
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Old Aug 3, 2015 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 93_xjcherokee
I'm on 32s with 3:55 gears and so bad I want to regear. I can do 65mph on the highway at about 2500rpm. I won't push my jeep over 3k rpm so I'm pretty limited
I'm curious as to the reasoning behind wanting to stay below 3k.
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Old Aug 3, 2015 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by toasterknight
I'm curious as to the reasoning behind wanting to stay below 3k.
Not sure about the OP, but for me above 3k just grates on my ears to hear it. But then I grew up with big block V8s and inline 6 Diesels where you normally never went above 3k. I probably don't break 2500 with the 4.9L in my F150, I shift 1,3,5 and hit fifth by the time I am at 35mph.
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Old Aug 3, 2015 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by VTJeep
IDK the output of a 2.5L but theres no way you wont notice the difference. Whether or not its enough to make you care is another matter. Im sure theres someone else running a 2.5 with 31's that would be able to give you a more honest answer, but theres plenty of people who run 33's on 3.55's (4.0L) without any real issue.. Not that its recommended.. Heres a visual aid to better understand what your doing when you dont regear.
I figure there will be a little difference, but currently I am at 2500 at 55mph and over 3k before I hit 70mph. Sounds like the thing is going to blow up at 70, so I mostly only drive on two lane roads. In the XJ and in my F150 if I drive 70 on the interstate I lose several miles per gallon so I just don't drive on them
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Old Aug 3, 2015 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jedijeb
Not sure about the OP, but for me above 3k just grates on my ears to hear it. But then I grew up with big block V8s and inline 6 Diesels where you normally never went above 3k. I probably don't break 2500 with the 4.9L in my F150, I shift 1,3,5 and hit fifth by the time I am at 35mph.
I routinely spend half a day at 3-5k but that's on sand. I guess it's what your used to. I love the sound of a well built engine pushing 7500 rpm.
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Old Aug 3, 2015 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by toasterknight
I'm curious as to the reasoning behind wanting to stay below 3k.
Lower rpm equals better gas mileage. Plus I just Dont beat on any vehicle I've ever owned. The more you rev the **** out of your motor, theres more potential to break things. With my grabbers, I get 13 mpg on a good day and worse on the highway.
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Old Aug 4, 2015 | 01:09 PM
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I've had 3 XJs that have been regeared:

'88 w/ 32s, manual and 4.10s
'99 w/ 31s, auto and 4.10s
'99 w/ 31s, auto and 4.56 (current)

There is NO way I would ever go lower than 4.56 after having them. I have a fairly light (for mod'd) vehicle & absolutely love the gearing. It is not screaming & I drive this thing all over the place. Perfect IMO.
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Old Aug 4, 2015 | 08:29 PM
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Thanks everyone for all the comments!!!

What I gathered from the post is that it is more of a matter of preference about gearing. I am a little worried about not regearing though.... I don't want to lose out on mileage and power... but I don't want to pay the money to get someone to do it. I'm 21 and in college and the more I read up about lifting a vehicle the more I realize all the integral parts that go into the whole process. It isn't as simple as just throwing on a lift and tires. Not sure what I will do now.
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Old Aug 4, 2015 | 08:33 PM
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Just save. When you know what you want, you'll have some fundage!
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Old Aug 5, 2015 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by VTJeep
I respect your decision because I know you know your ****, but I really dont think "need to regear" is totally accurate.. I did say that to be at stock configuration, 31's and 4.10's is needed, but for the cost of buying and installing, the jump from 3.55 to 4.10 is a huge cost for a tiny gain. To OP, why not get the 31's on and then decide if its worth it to regear. For the interim when towing keep it in 3rd and it will be ok until you decide.



IDK the output of a 2.5L but theres no way you wont notice the difference. Whether or not its enough to make you care is another matter. Im sure theres someone else running a 2.5 with 31's that would be able to give you a more honest answer, but theres plenty of people who run 33's on 3.55's (4.0L) without any real issue.. Not that its recommended.. Heres a visual aid to better understand what your doing when you dont regear.

Your correct I did struggle with the 31's and then even more when I went with the 33's. What I noticed the most was high trans temps with both that a cooler would not cure. Then was the very poor fuel mileage and sluggishness on and off road.

Originally Posted by XJlimitedx99
As much as I love this I dont think it really fits the discussion. Regearing puts more stress on spider gears, axle shafts, u-joints and anything else "downstream" of the diff because there is more torque being applied to the weight of the bigger tires. It also stresses the body more because the extra torque can twist everything up that much easier. It's only easier on the driveline components that are "upstream" of the differential, like driveshafts, tcase, trans, and motor.

I have all stock Chy 8.25 29 spline and D30 HP in mine with Detroit Lockers and I do run 35's on beadlocks now on some trails at 6-9 psi. I carry spare axles for the D30 & 8.25 but so far have not broken anything. I tend to pick my line carefully and go easy on the skinny peddle, I'm not ashamed to use the winch when needed lol. I do have new driveshaft's and pinions also installed.
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Old Sep 12, 2023 | 07:44 AM
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Going from 3.55 to 3.73 is a waste of money. You don't want to have to do this job twice if you are paying someone else to do it so go bigger just in case. Bigger tires help reverse the rear end gear ratio the other way. What I mean by this is if you are running too high of RPMs at a certain speed you go, bigger tires will help lower that RPM at a certain speed you go.

If you have 31s and 4.10s and you usually travel at 80 mph, you are turning your XJ at about 2,678 RPMs. If you went up to 33s, it would lower your RPMs to 2,516 at 80 mph. If you went up to 35s, it would lower your RPMs to 2,372 at 80 mph.

Personally, I wouldn't go with anything but 4.10 or 4.56 depending on your tire size. 31s would call for 4.10s. 33s call for 4.10 or 4.56. 35s call for 4.56.
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Old Sep 12, 2023 | 08:08 PM
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You drive a old jeep wich tells me you have already chosen to live with less mpg and efficiency.

Drive the damn thing with 3s and roll on. If you do regear dont let anyone talk you into 3.73 or 4.10s. Just do 4.56 and be done with it..


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Old Sep 13, 2023 | 07:45 AM
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I could have sworn I replied to someone that posted recently. Did I really reply to a post from 2015? Oh boy...
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Originally Posted by vroomvroom
I could have sworn I replied to someone that posted recently. Did I really reply to a post from 2015? Oh boy...
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