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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 12:40 AM
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are there any other chrysler vehicles that used the same coil up front, leaf in the rear set up that would make a full size axle swap easier?????

Like a dodge pickup or something? something that already has coil buckets and everything?
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 01:08 AM
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no you are going to have to do a lot of work any way you go. why are you going to go full width any way.
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 01:21 AM
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I want to keep an eye out for the parts I want eventually I'm gonna put a big block and full widths in my jeep.
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 02:16 AM
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that sounds crazy just take as many pics as you can
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 08:02 AM
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last two generations of rams have the same basic suspension. coil front and leaf rear. but they are way wider, as in the spring perches are way wider, so you need to cut, grind and weld to narrow then anyways, so mind as well start with what you actually want or whats in your budget and local
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 08:10 AM
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Keep you eye out for Ford HP d60's. Then you can buy a truss and mount the front under your rig. Also keep you eye out for HPd44's with weld on wedges. Those would be your full width choices ith the least amouont of work.

I suppose you could also modify the brackets and mounts on the dodge trucks, but now too many ppl do that.
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 05:45 PM
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Buy a donor truck with the same basic setup, probably a dodge. even if they don't mate exactly getting a vehicle with a similar design means that when I look at if for a while before I start I get these ideas, and there might be parts to steal. other mods maybe, brackets to steal..... arms to steal, good stuff to carry over.....Might be able to use some of the peices of steel to make some stuff.

If I just buy a plain pair of axles I will probably pay the same as I would for a wrecked, or broken down donor truck........I've found that if your patient someone's always tryin to get a few bucks more for thier old broken down truck then the scrap yard would give'm. If I could find a 4x4 1 ton that was totaled, or rolled over I bet I could pay a little bit of nothin for it.......It wouldn't even have to be a 1ton, just a full size half ton, 3/4 with the right axles.......
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 06:43 PM
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your best "least work" option is a front axle out of a 78-79 bronco
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Old Apr 17, 2009 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by warrpath4x4
your best "least work" option is a front axle out of a 78-79 bronco
That depends on what axle you get. If you get the ones with the cast Wedges they are junk. YOu want them out of a 3/4 ton or 1 ton.
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 09:56 AM
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dodge axles are garbage for swapping udner jeeps.

no locking hubs
unit bearings
low pinion
vacuum disconnect.


late 70's ford 44 fronts (leaf sprung or welded radius arm wedges)
1980-1992 fullsize jeep front 44 (not quite fullwidth though)
ford front 60's (holy grail of axles swaps)
chevy front 60's arent bad either, just low pinion and pass drop (need pass drop t-case)


rear axles are easy enough. rear 14 bolts and ff 60's are a dime a dozen. get a front axle and build your rear to match (width and lug pattern and whatnot)
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Old Apr 18, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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I am just about done with a full size axlw swap in my jeep. It was not that hard if you know what parts to buy befor you start. I used the D44 and 9 Inch from a 79 bronco. I found some extended radious arms that make life a lot easier. If you use stock arms you will have to make a trans mount cross member. If you would like some pics and more info. on how I did mine just let me know.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 08:19 PM
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i just bought a 79' f-150 with the d44 front and 9" rear i haven't started yet cause i dont know what all i need to take off with the 44 and 9" to do the swap
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by thelaststarfighter13
Buy a donor truck with the same basic setup, probably a dodge. even if they don't mate exactly getting a vehicle with a similar design means that when I look at if for a while before I start I get these ideas, and there might be parts to steal. other mods maybe, brackets to steal..... arms to steal, good stuff to carry over.....Might be able to use some of the peices of steel to make some stuff.

If I just buy a plain pair of axles I will probably pay the same as I would for a wrecked, or broken down donor truck........I've found that if your patient someone's always tryin to get a few bucks more for thier old broken down truck then the scrap yard would give'm. If I could find a 4x4 1 ton that was totaled, or rolled over I bet I could pay a little bit of nothin for it.......It wouldn't even have to be a 1ton, just a full size half ton, 3/4 with the right axles.......
The factory brackets are basically sheet metal and garbage if you plan to wheel it. Find good axles (not Dodge fronts) and get good heavy aftermarket brackets or if you are a glutton for punishment like me, make your own. Buying a parts truck isn't a bad idea, but the axles will be all you need but you'll know they are the same bolt pattern and gear ration.
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Old Dec 20, 2015 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jlmcleod
I am just about done with a full size axlw swap in my jeep. It was not that hard if you know what parts to buy befor you start. I used the D44 and 9 Inch from a 79 bronco. I found some extended radious arms that make life a lot easier. If you use stock arms you will have to make a trans mount cross member. If you would like some pics and more info. on how I did mine just let me know.
not sure if your still on here but can u send a build thread for your 3/4 swap like of axle brackets
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Old Dec 21, 2015 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Mick Iam PA Indabuilding
not sure if your still on here but can u send a build thread for your 3/4 swap like of axle brackets
that user hasn't logged on since 2010. he mentioned he used a cast wedge D44 so he would have had to use the factory ford radius arms modified to bolt onto custom frame side mounts. that's not a great route to go when there are better axle options

ruffstuff, and a few other companies sell everything you need to swap axles over
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