Question for the seller. Maybe the pic is just a pic. Not the "actual" pic? I don't know.

 

You're gonna feel potholes no matter what. It's hard to describe.. When you go over a random pothole or bump at speed now, your jeep hits it and kinda floats up and down a bit after right? With a stiffer suspension, you'll hit it, then it's over. There's no modulation afterwards.

 

If you dont want to feel potholes, buy a helicopter.

 

Or a hoverboard!

 

With my jeep right now when I hit a pothole it feels like im slamming a curb...its really really stiff

 

You must have Rough Country shocks

 

Bingo!

 

Even REs 2in lift shocks with 3in of lift ride way better

 

I sell BDS's fox shocks their advice was that the fox shocks are too stiff for a jeep, since it is a light vehicle. Between the 3 I would go OEM, but look in to a twin tube gas shock, like the Zone offload nitro shocks. That's what I have on my 97 with 4.5" lift. They give you the advantages of a gas shock with out sacrificing the ride too much. The fox and bilstein have fairly high pressure 300 to 400 psi, the zones are closer to 150 to 200

 

You clearly do not know what you are talking about.

Fox's 2.0 entry level shock is available in a variety of valving options and is rebuildable, so even if ya dont like the valving, you can play with the shim stacks to acheive the valving you want. Fox and bilstein do not reccomend you charge their shocks anywhere near 300-400 psi. Iirc fox calls for around 200 max, and i can imagine bilstein isnt far off. I ran my foa 2.0s at 150. There is no ride quality being sacrificed, its all in how the shock is setup for whoever is driving the rig. If you want to go fast and keep the jeep under control, the low speed performance is affected, if you just go slow and want a cushy ride, the high speed performance is affected.

 

Wow little aggressive there. I was not talking about the fox rebuildable shock I was talking about the fox shocks that BDS sells, they have vehicle specific one. As far as the pressure, this is off of bilstein's web site

The BILSTEIN Gas Pressure Shock Absorber is a telescopic, mono-tube unit filled with nitrogen gas and hydraulic oil. The gas, sealed in a special compartment at 360 psi (25 times atmospheric pressure) exerts constant high pressure on the oil column eliminating cavitation and foaming. The absolute elimination of foaming (no air forming in the oil) results in uninterrupted damping for even the smallest wheel deflections (2 mm): a performance which no other type of shock claims or matches.

So I would say the 360 psi is fairly close to the 300 - 400 range that I mentioned. So CLEARLY you don't know everything.

 

Never said i know everything. Just looked up the reccomended nitrogen charge for the 7100. 180 to 220psi. What shock is 360? The non servicable 51xx series? I always thought 180 to 220 was pretty standard for a monotube.

Valving has much more to do with the ride over pressure charge regardless. And to say a cheap twin tube is the better shock over a properly valved rebuildable monotube is just silly.

 

I took off my Frontier and send back my Bilstein shocks and got the KYB's. The Bisltein shocks were too soft. The KYB's are much better. Wife drives it as her daily driver, and even thanked me. She said it is much better.

I pushed both of them on the floor. Those KYB's had tons of pressure, the Bilstein, my kid could do. No leaks, only 1 month old.

I called Bilstein, and the rep said they are making the shocks softer due to complaints. So, they are chaging the valving or psi, not sure which. But, I wasn't happy.

 

Those direct fit shocks seem to be a joke. Never got them, never will. I like to choose my own valving.

 

the pressure of the nitrogen inside the shock isn't the only thing that changes the 'feel' of a shock. a shock charged to 150psi with aggressive shim stacks will be a lot stiffer than a shock with 400psi valved like an old couch. the reason i know you have no real knowledge is that you're recommending a twintube shock over a monotube.

again with the pressure. do you actually know what the nitrogen is there to do or are you just rehearsing what your supplier told you to tell people? it's there to keep the oil from cavitating, which happens when the shock modulates quickly... i.e; going offroad. let me learn you on how shocks are constructed so you can understand WHY the pressure varies so greatly.

twintubes run at a more "normal" pressure bc theyre designed with the oil in one section of the shock, and gas in the other. there is no internal floating piston (or IFP, which, described most elementary, is a metal cylinder with holes in it and some rubber seals) to keep the gas and oil separated.



since OEM-style monotube shocks are so small, the pressure NEEDS to be much higher so the gas can do its job. simple as that. adjusting gas pressure is the LAST thing you do to change the feel of a shock, it is far too unreliable of an adjustment to be constant in environments and applications. my bilstein 9100s are stiff as hell, and i charged them to 225psi. if i drop to 150psi, i probably wont notice a difference.

again OEM STYLE MOUNTING bilsteins have NOTHING TO DO with a 5125/5150/5165/7100/9100/9300... those are the shocks you buy for your truck and the only description is "make/model... xxx" lift." these are MUCH softer bc of what has been said already more than once. the ones that everyone should be buying have valving numbers listed. you're still throwing on a generic valve, but its much better suited to a lifted and wheeled vehicle than some OEM soft valve made to mimic stock feel. if its some vehicle you drive it on the street, and its stock, no one here should care; bc an off the shelf frontier shock is no where near the same as an off the shelf jeep shock. that would be like me saying the monroes on my mom's explorer handle great, so thats what we should put in our jeeps.

real shocks are finally starting to catch on in the aftermarket, and not just racing applications. hell, just 2-3 years ago people thought they could race KOH with air shocks...