Modified XJ Cherokee Tech XJ (84-01)
All modified tech questions. If it modifies your XJ beyond stock parts ask it here.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

DANA 44 Gears And Carrier

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-15-2011, 12:50 AM
  #1  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
Unleashed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: SoCal, San Fernando
Posts: 1,082
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default DANA 44 Gears And Carrier

so recently i had a little incident
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f67/wh...-pinion-85561/

and my original plan was to build my dana 44 before i put it on but since that happened now i have to put it on right away......right now the gears im running are 3.07 because my jeep is a 5 speed

The Dana 44 i got is for a XJ and it has 3.07 gears with a limited slip carrier....

so i was thinking of doing 4.56 gears and a locker but im also not looking to break my pocket either......i would be fine with just doing 4.56 with the same carrier since its already LSD but any opinions on this?

thanks!
Old 04-15-2011, 06:09 AM
  #2  
CF Veteran
 
freegdr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Broward County Fl.
Posts: 47,923
Likes: 0
Received 23 Likes on 23 Posts
Year: 1989 xj sport 2dr
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 12 hole bosch Injectors
Default

going to need carriers for both front and rear to do 456
Old 04-15-2011, 06:54 AM
  #3  
CF Veteran
 
SeriousOffroad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,952
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 14 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

The carrier break for a Dana44 is 3.92 and up. D30 is 3.73 and up.
Old 04-15-2011, 07:52 AM
  #4  
CF Veteran
 
Gorillaxj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 4,968
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

as stated above you "need" a new carrier to go numerically higher the 3.73. you can also get thick gears which will make the numerically higher ratio fit the lower carrier...
USA standard gears THICK
Yukon gears THICK

these will work allowing you to keep your LSD in the D44.

Last edited by Gorillaxj; 04-15-2011 at 07:54 AM.
Old 04-15-2011, 10:09 AM
  #5  
Junior Member
 
3x-xj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: alaska
Posts: 46
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

yukon has a spool for $100 thats what I did. You will spend $50 bucks for a new carrier, if you dont want to break the bank, and its not your daily driver, thats what I did.
Old 04-16-2011, 11:47 PM
  #6  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
Unleashed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: SoCal, San Fernando
Posts: 1,082
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default

Originally Posted by Gorillaxj
as stated above you "need" a new carrier to go numerically higher the 3.73. you can also get thick gears which will make the numerically higher ratio fit the lower carrier...
USA standard gears THICK
Yukon gears THICK

these will work allowing you to keep your LSD in the D44.
whats the difference between those two?
also i have a dana 30 in the front....how would i work with that?

Originally Posted by 3x-xj
yukon has a spool for $100 thats what I did. You will spend $50 bucks for a new carrier, if you dont want to break the bank, and its not your daily driver, thats what I did.
spool? also what type of carrier is it?

also its not my daily driver so that kinda helps
Old 04-17-2011, 08:30 AM
  #7  
CF Veteran
 
Gorillaxj's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Salt Lake City, UT
Posts: 4,968
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Originally Posted by Unleashed
whats the difference between those two?just the price tag. the thick gear makes it so you don't have to buy a carrier and you can keep the LSD(which is just so so IMO. but if you buy a locker or spool then just get a normal(non thick) gear and a 3.92 ^ carrier.

also i have a dana 30 in the front....how would i work with that?
as far as making it stronger? there are a lot of upgraded shaft options, trusses and other goodies for the D30. you would also need to get a matching ring and pinion for the front the same ratio as the back...


spool? also what type of carrier is it? a spool takes a locker one step further. it is ALWAYS locked and WONT ratchet or slow tires to move when turning or unloaded. its solid. these are good for off road only applications and mostly in the back only unless you have hydraulic assist or full hydraulic steering. they cause a front end to bind when steering, and tires bark when turning. if this isn't a vehicle you drive on the road i would say get a spool for the back. its cheap strong and works well. but if you do i would get an actual locker...
there are open carriers (has spider gears) lsd carriers(has spider gears and clutches to help limit movement) lockers with carriers(has a full body and has either clutches only or a helical locking device inside) and a spool (no spider gears, no clutches, no locking device. its solid metal from the ring gear to the shafts... would Google these options and read up on them before spending money.

also its not my daily driver so that kinda helps
good luck!
Old 04-17-2011, 08:56 AM
  #8  
MJ>XJ
 
huntingman2706217's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Griffin, G.A.
Posts: 17,836
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Comanche
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default

USA gears is owned and made by Yukon... same mold castings... same part numbers... USA gears are half the price of most any other gear brand. Randy's ring and pinion seems to get them and sell they at the cheapest prices... even the eBay ones...

a spool replaces your carrier and acts as a locker... make site its a full spool... your rear tires will be forever locked... means barking tires around corners forever and more tire wear... almost like welding your spider gears but better...
Old 02-12-2012, 09:49 AM
  #9  
Newbie
 
sahmadi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Model: Cherokee
Default You have what I need

You have got the xj rear diff that I need. I have 1992 chrokee and I am trying to replace the D35 with D44 limited slip 3.07 gears. By the time you make all of those modes you are better off to get a D44 with the right gears. I am not joking but you sound like you need to seel that baby to me.
Old 02-12-2012, 10:27 AM
  #10  
MJ>XJ
 
huntingman2706217's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Griffin, G.A.
Posts: 17,836
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Comanche
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default

Originally Posted by sahmadi
You have got the xj rear diff that I need. I have 1992 chrokee and I am trying to replace the D35 with D44 limited slip 3.07 gears. By the time you make all of those modes you are better off to get a D44 with the right gears. I am not joking but you sound like you need to seel that baby to me.
i have that exact axle d44 limited slip 3.07... but its in my MJ... lol
Old 02-12-2012, 10:44 AM
  #11  
CF Veteran
 
SeriousOffroad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,952
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 14 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

And I've got two!
One under my rig, the other is sitting on my axle stand waiting for a local buyer with deep pockets.
Old 02-12-2012, 12:40 PM
  #12  
Newbie
 
sahmadi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 24
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Model: Cherokee
Default D44 with 3.07 gears

That's not fair. You have got 2 and most of us don't even have 1. May I ask where are you located?
Old 02-12-2012, 01:05 PM
  #13  
CF Veteran
 
SeriousOffroad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,952
Likes: 0
Received 16 Likes on 14 Posts
Model: Cherokee
Default

Colorado
Old 02-12-2012, 02:38 PM
  #14  
Junior Member
 
xj4banger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Nashua NH
Posts: 30
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 2.5 for now
Default

i order all my stuff from eastcoastgearsupply.com/

to do your whole jeep 4.56s you will need

REAR;
new carrier $95 or a spool for $180 (make sure it fits 456s)
master rebuild kit $100
ring pinion $160

FRONT;
new carrier $64
master rebuild kit $115
ring and pinion $165

my choice i would do a spool in the rear but its up to you good luck
Old 02-12-2012, 09:21 PM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
Cherokee9t8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Peterborough, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 588
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Originally Posted by huntingman2706217
i have that exact axle d44 limited slip 3.07... but its in my MJ... lol
I just sold one of these today so that I could pick up one already setup for an XJ with a disc swap installed.. saves me a little bit of work! lol


Quick Reply: DANA 44 Gears And Carrier



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:48 PM.