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Old 07-06-2011, 08:43 AM
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Hi everyone.

I have a question regarding my dana 35 differential.

I know if I want to fit a detroit locker in it I have to change wheel axles.

So, the deal is this, does those axles support any limited slip or they can get wasted?
Those axles are 27 spline and also are the ones that came with the car when it was made.

Thank for any answer regarding this.
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WASTE... I would NOT even bother locking a D35 axle... you are asking to problems
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Thanks. I had that question on my mind, beacuse some people told me here the dana 35 with standard wheel axles can support any LSD, others told the contrary as you.

With this confirmation aout my doubts in this issue, I'll better start finding a v8 grand cherokee rear end equipped with trac loc. Gear ratio is not a must to change, because I'm using 31x10.50R15 maxxis bravo mt and my rig shake very well those tires with the 3.55 diff ratio. I'm planning to go to 33 and 4.11, no more of it and the dana 30 stay as it is right now with no locker.

Thanks for your help Eric.
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Why the V8 GC rear? Isn't it a D44a?
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Thanks. I had that question on my mind, beacuse some people told me here the dana 35 with standard wheel axles can support any LSD, others told the contrary as you.

With this confirmation aout my doubts in this issue, I'll better start finding a v8 grand cherokee rear end equipped with trac loc. Gear ratio is not a must to change, because I'm using 31x10.50R15 maxxis bravo mt and my rig shake very well those tires with the 3.55 diff ratio. I'm planning to go to 33 and 4.11, no more of it and the dana 30 stay as it is right now with no locker.

Thanks for your help Eric.
If tires are to be 32" or smaller a locked D35 should do fine. If you want to go 32" or bigger I'd look for a D44 or an 8.25 (97+) out of a XJ.
Unless you are converting to coil sprung rear the GC axle wont work, besides it either a D35 like what you have or even worse an aluminum bodied D44.
For Hardcore wheeling a D35 is too weak for the basic DD/Trail rig it's fine. It has been used in jeeps for over 40 years, it can't be nearly as bad as the propaganda insinuates. I'd bet that 90% of the D35 failures would have been the same with a built D60. Since 99% of axle failures are DRIVER caused.
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99% of axle failures are DRIVER caused.
X2. I'm a locked 35 with 33'' tires and it's fine. Don't kill the skinny pedal. Everyone is just hating on the 35. Its just a number.
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X2. I'm a locked 35 with 33'' tires and it's fine. Don't kill the skinny pedal. Everyone is just hating on the 35. Its just a number.
Yeah, just a number...
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Originally Posted by 93gc40
If tires are to be 32" or smaller a locked D35 should do fine. If you want to go 32" or bigger I'd look for a D44 or an 8.25 (97+) out of a XJ.
Unless you are converting to coil sprung rear the GC axle wont work, besides it either a D35 like what you have or even worse an aluminum bodied D44.
For Hardcore wheeling a D35 is too weak for the basic DD/Trail rig it's fine. It has been used in jeeps for over 40 years, it can't be nearly as bad as the propaganda insinuates. I'd bet that 90% of the D35 failures would have been the same with a built D60. Since 99% of axle failures are DRIVER caused.
Ok.

So, the custom wheel axles of the D35 have never been replaced. Those are the same mounted on the assembly plant. Those axles can support a LS use?

I'm looking for some extra traction. I'm not having my rig for hardcore or extreme wheeling. This is my DD rig. I go wheeling, not every day or weekend, but I want to add a LS to my D35 without buying reinforced wheel axles.

The diffs gear ratio are 3.55:1 with 31x10.50R15 Maxxis Bravo MT, 4.0L engine, AW4 AT and NP231C. Don't know if I'm going to 33 and 4.11, because then I have to buy reinforced axles and a locker, not a LS.

If the custom axles can support a LS with 31 tires, man, I'll buy it right now!
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x3 on the d35 if you dont romp the skinny pedal when in a hard spot it works good. still running a non c clip 35 with 36 iroks for the past 3yrs and i just tread lightly when in the hard spots and been working fine. knock on wood it does have 150k on it.
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Have a Dana 35 with factory LSD on 36 swampers. I'm a lot easier on the skinny pedal for it but that's how I wheel. Having 3.55 gears help out to. Hard to snap an axle when u don't have that much power to them lol. I have a 29 spline 8.25 ready to drop in. I'm waiting on money to drop some gears in. If it came with a factory LSD rock on. I wouldn't waste my money putting one in tho. Not when u can find a 8.25 at any pull a part yard for under a 100 bucks. I hate when people say something cant be done. Yes I have to be a lil more careful when I wheel but I am anyways. It's a dd. No reason to beat the **** out of it cuz I gotta drive it to work the next day.
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Originally Posted by Anel
Ok.

So, the custom wheel axles of the D35 have never been replaced. Those are the same mounted on the assembly plant. Those axles can support a LS use?

I'm looking for some extra traction. I'm not having my rig for hardcore or extreme wheeling. This is my DD rig. I go wheeling, not every day or weekend, but I want to add a LS to my D35 without buying reinforced wheel axles.

The diffs gear ratio are 3.55:1 with 31x10.50R15 Maxxis Bravo MT, 4.0L engine, AW4 AT and NP231C. Don't know if I'm going to 33 and 4.11, because then I have to buy reinforced axles and a locker, not a LS.

If the custom axles can support a LS with 31 tires, man, I'll buy it right now!
The axel can handle a locker or LSD fine with stock shafts. Just keep the tire size below 33".
Also, Never mash the gas when a wheel is off the ground or bound up on an obsticle. This is what breaks axles.
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Originally Posted by 93gc40
The axel can handle a locker or LSD fine with stock shafts. Just keep the tire size below 33".
Also, Never mash the gas when a wheel is off the ground or bound up on an obsticle. This is what breaks axles.
Great!

I never slaugh the vehicle. If the vehicle can't pass an obstacle, there's the winch or the car in front to pull me off.

Thank you!
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Originally Posted by 93gc40

If tires are to be 32" or smaller a locked D35 should do fine. If you want to go 32" or bigger I'd look for a D44 or an 8.25 (97+) out of a XJ.
Unless you are converting to coil sprung rear the GC axle wont work, besides it either a D35 like what you have or even worse an aluminum bodied D44.
For Hardcore wheeling a D35 is too weak for the basic DD/Trail rig it's fine. It has been used in jeeps for over 40 years, it can't be nearly as bad as the propaganda insinuates. I'd bet that 90% of the D35 failures would have been the same with a built D60. Since 99% of axle failures are DRIVER caused.
I agree with everything you said, except for this part
" I'd bet that 90% of the D35 failures would have been the same with a built D60."

If your breaking d60 stuff on 33s or 35s, it's not "built". Ive been wheeling on 33" TSL that measure 34.1" for about 6 months. I'm not easy on my junk by anymeans, and haven't broke anything serious.

To the OP: go to the junkyard and pull an 8.25 from a 97+, it'll bolt right up and will be fine locked on 35s.
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Sounds good!
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Originally Posted by Daltonamorph
I agree with everything you said, except for this part
" I'd bet that 90% of the D35 failures would have been the same with a built D60."

If your breaking d60 stuff on 33s or 35s, it's not "built". Ive been wheeling on 33" TSL that measure 34.1" for about 6 months. I'm not easy on my junk by anymeans, and haven't broke anything serious.

To the OP: go to the junkyard and pull an 8.25 from a 97+, it'll bolt right up and will be fine locked on 35s.
i have met plenty of people that ate shafts on D60s with 35/36s lock them get them in a heavy bind and romp it breaks just like every other axle. them being comparable to breaking a D35...no.


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