Dana 30 alloy axle tube seals question
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Seriously, I would love to hear the story about that first picture.
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This picture I 'borrowed' from I do knot know where, to make a point. I haven't a clue how that could happen. I do not think gear oil by itself could ever become that.
Looks like asphalt or crude oil.
The second picture I posted of the tube seal is mine.
Looks like asphalt or crude oil.
The second picture I posted of the tube seal is mine.
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To an extent i guess.The inner seals still keep your diff submerged in fluid no matter how off camber you are.. Filling an axle tube with diff fluid would not.. The fill point is well below center meaning if you filled it all the way up with no inner seals you would probably only be about 1/5th of the way to filling your able tubes... Meaning when off camber, it would drain to that side leaving the diff with no lube...
The outer seals work great for what they are designed for... Too keep mud/water away from your inner seals. The reason they tell you *important... Run inner seals* is not for liability... Its so you don't destroy your diff.
They do have a possible downside as well... Anything that does get in there is trapped in there.
The outer seals work great for what they are designed for... Too keep mud/water away from your inner seals. The reason they tell you *important... Run inner seals* is not for liability... Its so you don't destroy your diff.
They do have a possible downside as well... Anything that does get in there is trapped in there.
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*edit* ignore last post.. I'm wrong
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Funny how all of those are below half way..... Not even taking into effect castor... Lol do what you guys want... There is a reason why it says not to forget the inner seals
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Funny how all of those are below half way..... Not even taking into effect castor... Lol do what you guys want... There is a reason why it says not to forget the inner seals
also, the 8.8 fills above the centerline from the front of the pig :P
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You are correct.. Only the old D44 rears have seals. I would not run without a inner on the front but I feel like I am arguing a useless point at this point lol.
i wouldn't run without the inners either, those outer seals only seal with rubber on the outside, they aren't a press fit, i don't like that.
Ok, so here is the deal. I installed my front locker over the weekend and while I was at it I replaced the inner axle seals, however, the passenger side is leaking a bit.
Course my first thought was to do it all over again, but then a friend told me about the alloy axle tube seals that go on the outside of the shaft. Are these to replace the inner seal or just complement them? Would these take care of my issue?
Course my first thought was to do it all over again, but then a friend told me about the alloy axle tube seals that go on the outside of the shaft. Are these to replace the inner seal or just complement them? Would these take care of my issue?
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^^ Good advise.
Also when installing tube seals I clean out the tubes and axle shafts and coat both in grease before being sealed up.
Most shafts are pitted where the tube seal will go. Emery cloth is a must.
Also when installing tube seals I clean out the tubes and axle shafts and coat both in grease before being sealed up.
Most shafts are pitted where the tube seal will go. Emery cloth is a must.
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Good advise Steve and Schirm.
I already have everything apart again sitting at home waiting for me. I did not clean out the axle as well as I probably should have, so I am taking it slower this time and making sure to leave nothing to chance.
I will certainly use emory paper (great advise) after I clean the axle tubes out really well. This just gives me better practice on breaking things down and putting them back together if (when) I break something on the trails.
On a separate note, as I was behind the house testing out the Spartan locker that caused me to go through all of these gyrations in the first place, it worked awesome (course this is coming from a guy that is used to open/open).
I am quite excited to get all of this buttoned up and test it on some real stuff.
I already have everything apart again sitting at home waiting for me. I did not clean out the axle as well as I probably should have, so I am taking it slower this time and making sure to leave nothing to chance.
I will certainly use emory paper (great advise) after I clean the axle tubes out really well. This just gives me better practice on breaking things down and putting them back together if (when) I break something on the trails.
On a separate note, as I was behind the house testing out the Spartan locker that caused me to go through all of these gyrations in the first place, it worked awesome (course this is coming from a guy that is used to open/open).
I am quite excited to get all of this buttoned up and test it on some real stuff.


