d44 swap
There's just as much aftermarket support for 8.8s as 44s. Not that a 44 isn't a great axle, I'm just saying an 8.8 is a smarter choice if you're going to go through the hassle of cutting off and welding on new perches and shock mounts.
Every axle has downsides, but what does advantage does a 44 have over an 8.8 aside from the bolt in option? Even then it's rare that you can find a good deal on them. I guess there's the width issue, but that comes back to the bolt in 44 option as well. There's just as much aftermarket support for 8.8s as 44s. Not that a 44 isn't a great axle, I'm just saying an 8.8 is a smarter choice if you're going to go through the hassle of cutting off and welding on new perches and shock mounts.
No need to weld the tubes to the diff.
No C-Clips.
Can be used with smaller tires and not dig a trench when doing so.
The OEM carrier is not a known-weak link.
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From: Tallahassee, FL
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I read and read, expecting one day I am going to swap out my own axles (like Phase 3 - now I am on Phase 1), I know eventually I want bigger than 35's.... like 40's
I think I am fairly settled on a 14 bolt rear when the time comes (maybe shaved), In the front I have been all over the place and always seem to come back around to an aftermarket Dynatrac, Currie, or similar axle, by the time I buy everything to build a junkyard axle up to the job it just seems to get so close that you might as well as buy an aftermarket axle.
$1750 Currie Dana 44 HP RockJock Housing with TJ/XJ Knuckles
$1000 RCV Axle Shafts
$ 650 Detroit Locker
$ 250 4.56/4.88 gear and master install kit.
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$3650 Total - but damn that just kills me... I am a cheap bastard.
Love to come up with a junkyard axle that I can build and install for around $2K when the times comes, but heck Locker, Alloy Axles, Truss, etc and I can have near that in a Dana 30 alone, let along try to build a 44HP
Ah heck, still no clue... LOL
I think I am fairly settled on a 14 bolt rear when the time comes (maybe shaved), In the front I have been all over the place and always seem to come back around to an aftermarket Dynatrac, Currie, or similar axle, by the time I buy everything to build a junkyard axle up to the job it just seems to get so close that you might as well as buy an aftermarket axle.
$1750 Currie Dana 44 HP RockJock Housing with TJ/XJ Knuckles
$1000 RCV Axle Shafts
$ 650 Detroit Locker
$ 250 4.56/4.88 gear and master install kit.
-----------------
$3650 Total - but damn that just kills me... I am a cheap bastard.
Love to come up with a junkyard axle that I can build and install for around $2K when the times comes, but heck Locker, Alloy Axles, Truss, etc and I can have near that in a Dana 30 alone, let along try to build a 44HP
Ah heck, still no clue... LOL
I read and read, expecting one day I am going to swap out my own axles (like Phase 3 - now I am on Phase 1), I know eventually I want bigger than 35's.... like 40's I think I am fairly settled on a 14 bolt rear when the time comes (maybe shaved), In the front I have been all over the place and always seem to come back around to an aftermarket Dynatrac, Currie, or similar axle, by the time I buy everything to build a junkyard axle up to the job it just seems to get so close that you might as well as buy an aftermarket axle. $1750 Currie Dana 44 HP RockJock Housing with TJ/XJ Knuckles $1000 RCV Axle Shafts $ 650 Detroit Locker $ 250 4.56/4.88 gear and master install kit. ----------------- $3650 Total - but damn that just kills me... I am a cheap bastard. Love to come up with a junkyard axle that I can build and install for around $2K when the times comes, but heck Locker, Alloy Axles, Truss, etc and I can have near that in a Dana 30 alone, let along try to build a 44HP Ah heck, still no clue... LOL
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I thought about that, but the added weight and cost....
Was thinking an aftermarket 44 would hold up to 40's...... thought I read that somewhere (you know everything you read on the internet is the truth), but could be wrong.
Honestly was thinking 37's until recently, but then started looking at typical MOAB and Rubicon vehicles and 40's or bigger seem to be the norm these days, and that is on my bucket list someday.
As I said I am all over the place with axle setup I want... don't know if I can ever come to a decision... LOL
Was thinking an aftermarket 44 would hold up to 40's...... thought I read that somewhere (you know everything you read on the internet is the truth), but could be wrong.
Honestly was thinking 37's until recently, but then started looking at typical MOAB and Rubicon vehicles and 40's or bigger seem to be the norm these days, and that is on my bucket list someday.
As I said I am all over the place with axle setup I want... don't know if I can ever come to a decision... LOL
I thought about that, but the added weight and cost.... Was thinking an aftermarket 44 would hold up to 40's...... thought I read that somewhere (you know everything you read on the internet is the truth), but could be wrong. Honestly was thinking 37's until recently, but then started looking at typical MOAB and Rubicon vehicles and 40's or bigger seem to be the norm these days, and that is on my bucket list someday. As I said I am all over the place with axle setup I want... don't know if I can ever come to a decision... LOL
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From: Vestal, New York
Year: 1999
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Moab and rubicon are very doable on tires less than a 40. It's all about suspension and driver ability or a good spotter when it comes to rocks and trails like those. And you can source out a d60/sterling 10.25 for under 6 grand for the pair, built, so long as you do most of the work.
Big axles and tires are fun, but personally, I'll take a challenge with a smaller rig, and keep up.
Big axles and tires are fun, but personally, I'll take a challenge with a smaller rig, and keep up.
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From: City of Trees, CA
Year: 93 2 door
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I thought about that, but the added weight and cost....
Was thinking an aftermarket 44 would hold up to 40's...... thought I read that somewhere (you know everything you read on the internet is the truth), but could be wrong.
Honestly was thinking 37's until recently, but then started looking at typical MOAB and Rubicon vehicles and 40's or bigger seem to be the norm these days, and that is on my bucket list someday.
As I said I am all over the place with axle setup I want... don't know if I can ever come to a decision... LOL
Was thinking an aftermarket 44 would hold up to 40's...... thought I read that somewhere (you know everything you read on the internet is the truth), but could be wrong.
Honestly was thinking 37's until recently, but then started looking at typical MOAB and Rubicon vehicles and 40's or bigger seem to be the norm these days, and that is on my bucket list someday.
As I said I am all over the place with axle setup I want... don't know if I can ever come to a decision... LOL
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From: City of Trees, CA
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8.25 and 8.8 are c-clip which defeats the purpose of being semi float. advantage goes to d44 rear
Last edited by Atmos; Nov 10, 2015 at 11:06 AM.
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From: City of Trees, CA
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http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/axles...-knuckles.html
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/axles...omoly-etc.html
Last edited by Atmos; Nov 10, 2015 at 12:11 PM.



