Chrysler 8.25 question
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Any body have any experience with USA Standard Gear Spartan Lockers? Thinking about getting one. Also my Jeep was built 9/96... Think it would have 29 spline shafts factory? Heard a '96 could have 27 or 29...
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Originally Posted by DazedNConfused
Any body have any experience with USA Standard Gear Spartan Lockers? Thinking about getting one. Also my Jeep was built 9/96... Think it would have 29 spline shafts factory? Heard a '96 could have 27 or 29...
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I have had the Spartan lockers in both axles for a year and they have worked great. As said above you may want to pull the axles first and see how many splines they have. Even if you have the 27 spline 8.25 you will be fine unless you want to run larger than 33 inch tires then you may want to upgrade to the 29 spline carrier and axles. Here is my review https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f67/fr...review-235737/
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I'll probably just go ahead and get some 29 spline shafts either new or used just have them on hand, I want the 29's if it doesn't have them already. If I do end up having 29 splines in it then I'll have spares... Joy! Trying to only tear in it once this go around.
00t444e, how's she drive with one in the front? Ever get on any snow or ice?
~EDIT~ Just read your write up on them, still curious about ice though if ya have any experiance with it.
00t444e, how's she drive with one in the front? Ever get on any snow or ice?
~EDIT~ Just read your write up on them, still curious about ice though if ya have any experiance with it.
Last edited by DazedNConfused; May 2, 2018 at 06:21 PM.
I put a Spartan locker in the rear of my 2001 XJ about a year ago and it has been doing great. You hear a little clicking when turning but nothing objectionable. I will probably also put one in the front sometime this year. I don't drive this one in the snow so not worried about that problem. From my research it seems that they should not be used on tires 35 inches or taller.
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I put a Spartan locker in the rear of my 2001 XJ about a year ago and it has been doing great. You hear a little clicking when turning but nothing objectionable. I will probably also put one in the front sometime this year. I don't drive this one in the snow so not worried about that problem. From my research it seems that they should not be used on tires 35 inches or taller.
It handles a little bit different but it isn't bad once you get used to it and know what to expect, for example if the right side tires are in snow or ice where there is very little grip and the left side is on clear pavement it will want to pull to the right when you give it gas, just keep a good grip on the steering wheel. I don't run it in 4x4 at highway speeds I mainly use 4x4 on the back roads going 35 mph or less then switch to 2wd when I get to the main roads.
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Originally Posted by DazedNConfused
I'll probably just go ahead and get some 29 spline shafts either new or used just have them on hand, I want the 29's if it doesn't have them already. If I do end up having 29 splines in it then I'll have spares... Joy! Trying to only tear in it once this go around.
00t444e, how's she drive with one in the front? Ever get on any snow or ice?
~EDIT~ Just read your write up on them, still curious about ice though if ya have any experiance with it.
00t444e, how's she drive with one in the front? Ever get on any snow or ice?
~EDIT~ Just read your write up on them, still curious about ice though if ya have any experiance with it.
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Originally Posted by DazedNConfused
The Spartan Locker I'm looking at is 29 spline. Once that's swapped in place of the spiders why wouldn't 29 spline shafts slide into it?
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People run 35s with lunchbox lockers, there is a guy on Youtube that was running 36s and now has 40s on upgraded Dana 30, and Chrysler 8.25 axles and hasn't broken anything yet. His channel is Rusty411.
It handles a little bit different but it isn't bad once you get used to it and know what to expect, for example if the right side tires are in snow or ice where there is very little grip and the left side is on clear pavement it will want to pull to the right when you give it gas, just keep a good grip on the steering wheel. I don't run it in 4x4 at highway speeds I mainly use 4x4 on the back roads going 35 mph or less then switch to 2wd when I get to the main roads.
It handles a little bit different but it isn't bad once you get used to it and know what to expect, for example if the right side tires are in snow or ice where there is very little grip and the left side is on clear pavement it will want to pull to the right when you give it gas, just keep a good grip on the steering wheel. I don't run it in 4x4 at highway speeds I mainly use 4x4 on the back roads going 35 mph or less then switch to 2wd when I get to the main roads.
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rusty does run 39.5 on an 8.25 and d30 but he’s running 4340s. Tube sleeves. Trusses. And a bunch of other serious parts. I’d say about 2k per axle. Plus he really only goes through mud and deep water. I guarantee and type of rocks or serious wheeling he’d be broke pretty quick. Super bad *** Jeep though. #goals.
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absolutely. He’s proof that you can run 35s confidently. I personally won’t be “locking” the 30 instead I’ll be running a truetrac with 410s on 35s.
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Originally Posted by Aecon
absolutely. He’s proof that you can run 35s confidently. I personally won’t be “locking” the 30 instead I’ll be running a truetrac with 410s on 35s.


