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can't align after 5" lift with new LCAs??

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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bighouts5591
He said that the camber issue will be corrected with longer ucas, because the ball joints will be in the correct location then. Right now the knuckles and leaning back at the top because the longer lcas are pushing the bottom of the axle too far forward for the short uppers
Get adj uppers then
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bighouts5591
I wonder if maybe he's not that great at alignment, what he said was that the LCAs were too long and tilted the steering knuckles too far back and threw off the camber
I would get a new alignment guy. If the LCAs are too long it would throw off the CASTOR not the camber. Does he know what he is talking about?

Your drivers wheel looks like it is too far over/sticking out. How does it compare to the other side?
Take some more pictures 1) similiar view from front of passenger wheel 2) side view of right and left front wheel as they sit in the fender well.

Where is your trac bar located? you need an adj. track bar or redrill the lower hole over.
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by CobraMarty
I would get a new alignment guy. If the LCAs are too long it would throw off the CASTOR not the camber. Does he know what he is talking about?
I second that. Get a second opinion
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 02:08 PM
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Take your wheels off and take some side shots of the axle, top ball joint should be slightly behind bottom one.
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 02:08 PM
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With weight on it.
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by CobraMarty

I would get a new alignment guy. If the LCAs are too long it would throw off the CASTOR not the camber. Does he know what he is talking about?

Your drivers wheel looks like it is too far over/sticking out. How does it compare to the other side?
Take some more pictures 1) similiar view from front of passenger wheel 2) side view of right and left front wheel as they sit in the fender well.

Where is your trac bar located? you need an adj. track bar or redrill the lower hole over.
I have an adjustable track bar that needs to be set properly, but I have it
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by martyinco
I second that. Get a second opinion
Third.
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 04:58 PM
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I got mine from FatBobs, and they were just a little bit longer, There were overlaps of the holes a little on one side if you matched up the other. I didn't change my UCAs, and i don't have a problem. I'm running roughly 4.5 lift in front and 5 in the rear... would be 5 all around, but my bumper is heavy, and i don't have an issue.
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 05:16 PM
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from what I can understand the reason that the "toe has become camber" is because the steering knuckles are leaned back, so the tie rod ends are pushing the tires out.

I'm going to take it to an alignment shop and have them check it out
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 05:20 PM
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and the tech who looked at it assured me that longer UCAs would fix the problem
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Old Mar 4, 2012 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by bighouts5591
from what I can understand the reason that the "toe has become camber" is because the steering knuckles are leaned back, so the tie rod ends are pushing the tires out.

I'm going to take it to an alignment shop and have them check it out
You can check/adjust toe yourself. With a 242TC toe should be even front/rear of tires. With 231TC front of tires should be approx 1/16-1/8" in from the rear of the tires.
What I do is measure the width of the inside of the front of the tires, and measure the inside rear. To adjust, you lift your front tires off the ground and turn the tierod to go in/out depending on how you need to go. Then lower it, check measurements again. If everything is good, tighten up your nuts on your tierod and you're set.
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