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Old Dec 4, 2014 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by wasilla xj
See im already starting off with 35s and plan on going bigger in a few months, but whats the value of dana 30 Chrysler worth for resale? If theyre 4.56 open front n locked rear?
Had to fix your spelling man. It was kinda painful to read.
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Old Dec 4, 2014 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Outlaw Star
Had to fix your spelling man. It was kinda painful to read.
walking and typing does not work...
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 12:32 AM
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hat front dana 44 would work with a chrysler 8.25? to be able to keep the same gear ratios? like 4.10s help please.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 12:52 AM
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yeah same gear ratios. unlikely that you would keep the same width or lug pattern. sounds like you're not really ready for a swap like this. keep researching and just wheel the setup you've got now
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 01:23 AM
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Only dana 44 stock width and stock lug pattern is a tj rubicon dana 44 but its not a true dana 44.A dana 44 is only good tell 37 inch tires so if you going bigger then a 35 later on its best to go full width axles aka dana 60 and a 14 bolt or bigger rear.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by andrewmp6
Only dana 44 stock width and stock lug pattern is a tj rubicon dana 44 but its not a true dana 44.A dana 44 is only good tell 37 inch tires so if you going bigger then a 35 later on its best to go full width axles aka dana 60 and a 14 bolt or bigger rear.
for anything but rock crawling the rubi 44 will work for 37's. but as soon as you start beating on them they're worthless. factory lockers, shafts, ujoints, kaboom. and even a regular ford D44 is only good to 37's. the only D44 I've seen withstand bigger tires is the full width 8 lug 44. but even then you're pushing your luck. D44's just aren't made to go passed a 37" tire

14 bolt and 60 are cool but only if you land a HP 60 and shave the 14. and that can be a lot of work and a lot of dollar$$$. honestly, Cherokees belong on D30/8.25 and that's about all they're good for. wanna go bigger? build a buggy
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 04:26 AM
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Yeah the rubicon 44 is a mutt its a dana 30 with a dana 44 center.Yeah and you do have a point for what it cost to throw 1 ton axles under a xj you could almost build a buggy or a full size rig or maybe early ranger/bronco 2 for something smaller.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Atmos
for anything but rock crawling the rubi 44 will work for 37's. but as soon as you start beating on them they're worthless. factory lockers, shafts, ujoints, kaboom. and even a regular ford D44 is only good to 37's. the only D44 I've seen withstand bigger tires is the full width 8 lug 44. but even then you're pushing your luck. D44's just aren't made to go passed a 37" tire

14 bolt and 60 are cool but only if you land a HP 60 and shave the 14. and that can be a lot of work and a lot of dollar$$$. honestly, Cherokees belong on D30/8.25 and that's about all they're good for. wanna go bigger? build a buggy
Ever heard of a Jana 54? If I was to build a 44 I would do one of them. Uses dana 50 gears, carrier, and shafts I think. I bet you could get it to hold 40s. I'd still want a 60 though
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by 884x4
Ever heard of a Jana 54? If I was to build a 44 I would do one of them. Uses dana 50 gears, carrier, and shafts I think. I bet you could get it to hold 40s. I'd still want a 60 though
yeah Carl Jantz has does some innovative work. sweet so your ring gear is stronger, now what are you gonna do about the dana 30 sized ujoints? holding 40's and wheeling the **** out of 40's are 2 different things. and honestly you really only need 37's. there is no point to testing limits of drive train with dreams of larger tires.

regardless, 60's aren't all that crackin either. especially the chevy low pinions the dana 30 is more awesome than people think. just run it till you're truly ready for some bigger parts
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 11:06 AM
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RCV's in the 54 would probably be suitable for 40's, but at that point there is no reason not to have built a 60.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Atmos
yeah Carl Jantz has does some innovative work. sweet so your ring gear is stronger, now what are you gonna do about the dana 30 sized ujoints? holding 40's and wheeling the **** out of 40's are 2 different things. and honestly you really only need 37's. there is no point to testing limits of drive train with dreams of larger tires.

regardless, 60's aren't all that crackin either. especially the chevy low pinions the dana 30 is more awesome than people think. just run it till you're truly ready for some bigger parts
37s on a d30 though ?
I'll probably never build a 44 just because it's just as much work to build a 60.
Eventually I'll be on ford hp 60(kingpin) sterling 10.25 or shaved 14bt ff. linked, coil overs, 5.3 or 6.0, 4L60E, a case with a dana 300 doubler. Well that's the hopes and dreams of this build at least lol. Want to be able to run 42 s no problem. So 35 spline Detroit, 35 spline inners, 35 spline outers, and Yukon hardcore locking hubs
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 884x4
37s on a d30 though ?
I'll probably never build a 44 just because it's just as much work to build a 60.
Eventually I'll be on ford hp 60(kingpin) sterling 10.25 or shaved 14bt ff. linked, coil overs, 5.3 or 6.0, 4L60E, a case with a dana 300 doubler. Well that's the hopes and dreams of this build at least lol. Want to be able to run 42 s no problem. So 35 spline Detroit, 35 spline inners, 35 spline outers, and Yukon hardcore locking hubs
05+ SD axles are wear its at. The 60 dwarfs any KP and stronger. 35 spline inner and outers stock, massive unit bearings, massive brakes, 1.5" thick shafts... The sterling is 1.5" smaller than a stock 14b housing, 35 spline shafts, 1.5" thick shafts, factory disc brakes, and like I said they don't need to be shaved. The only advantage of a KP is steering. But there are companys offering new knuckles or knuckle machining now.
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by 884x4
37s on a d30 though ?
I'll probably never build a 44 just because it's just as much work to build a 60.
Eventually I'll be on ford hp 60(kingpin) sterling 10.25 or shaved 14bt ff. linked, coil overs, 5.3 or 6.0, 4L60E, a case with a dana 300 doubler. Well that's the hopes and dreams of this build at least lol. Want to be able to run 42 s no problem. So 35 spline Detroit, 35 spline inners, 35 spline outers, and Yukon hardcore locking hubs
don't think I mentioned 37's on a D30

wow 6.0, coilovers, 1 tons, you know what those are all the parts to? a tube buggy lol
I know what you mean though. I love Cherokees till the bitter end and probably wont stop the useless spending on mine either
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 94XjSport94
05+ SD axles are wear its at. The 60 dwarfs any KP and stronger. 35 spline inner and outers stock, massive unit bearings, massive brakes, 1.5" thick shafts... The sterling is 1.5" smaller than a stock 14b housing, 35 spline shafts, 1.5" thick shafts, factory disc brakes, and like I said they don't need to be shaved. The only advantage of a KP is steering. But there are companys offering new knuckles or knuckle machining now.
I think only the stub shafts are 35 spline, the inners are the stock 30 spline from what I've read.
Hmmm either way I may just have to consider the 05+ SD d60 now lol
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Old Dec 5, 2014 | 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Atmos
don't think I mentioned 37's on a D30

wow 6.0, coilovers, 1 tons, you know what those are all the parts to? a tube buggy lol
I know what you mean though. I love Cherokees till the bitter end and probably wont stop the useless spending on mine either
Well you mentioned needing nothing over 37s and I would hate to spend all the time and money putting one tons under my rig for 1 more inch over my 35s lol
And yeah it will probably turn into all tube with a xj firewall haha I'll see how far I can get with mine right now as it is still road driven but once I get daily driver that's not a motorcycle I'll start turning it into a cherobuggy lol.
Or keep it kinda simple and make it like cholothuas's xj. That's a very clean full bodied capable one ton xj
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