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From: Lantana, Fl
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
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From: City of Trees, CA
Year: 93 2 door
Model: Cherokee
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yeah same gear ratios. unlikely that you would keep the same width or lug pattern. sounds like you're not really ready for a swap like this. keep researching and just wheel the setup you've got now
Only dana 44 stock width and stock lug pattern is a tj rubicon dana 44 but its not a true dana 44.A dana 44 is only good tell 37 inch tires so if you going bigger then a 35 later on its best to go full width axles aka dana 60 and a 14 bolt or bigger rear.
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From: City of Trees, CA
Year: 93 2 door
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14 bolt and 60 are cool but only if you land a HP 60 and shave the 14. and that can be a lot of work and a lot of dollar$$$. honestly, Cherokees belong on D30/8.25 and that's about all they're good for. wanna go bigger? build a buggy
Yeah the rubicon 44 is a mutt its a dana 30 with a dana 44 center.Yeah and you do have a point for what it cost to throw 1 ton axles under a xj you could almost build a buggy or a full size rig or maybe early ranger/bronco 2 for something smaller.
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From: Justin, TEXAS
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
for anything but rock crawling the rubi 44 will work for 37's. but as soon as you start beating on them they're worthless. factory lockers, shafts, ujoints, kaboom. and even a regular ford D44 is only good to 37's. the only D44 I've seen withstand bigger tires is the full width 8 lug 44. but even then you're pushing your luck. D44's just aren't made to go passed a 37" tire
14 bolt and 60 are cool but only if you land a HP 60 and shave the 14. and that can be a lot of work and a lot of dollar$$$. honestly, Cherokees belong on D30/8.25 and that's about all they're good for. wanna go bigger? build a buggy
14 bolt and 60 are cool but only if you land a HP 60 and shave the 14. and that can be a lot of work and a lot of dollar$$$. honestly, Cherokees belong on D30/8.25 and that's about all they're good for. wanna go bigger? build a buggy
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From: City of Trees, CA
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regardless, 60's aren't all that crackin either. especially the chevy low pinions
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From: Justin, TEXAS
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
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yeah Carl Jantz has does some innovative work. sweet so your ring gear is stronger, now what are you gonna do about the dana 30 sized ujoints? holding 40's and wheeling the **** out of 40's are 2 different things. and honestly you really only need 37's. there is no point to testing limits of drive train with dreams of larger tires.
regardless, 60's aren't all that crackin either. especially the chevy low pinions
the dana 30 is more awesome than people think. just run it till you're truly ready for some bigger parts
regardless, 60's aren't all that crackin either. especially the chevy low pinions
? I'll probably never build a 44 just because it's just as much work to build a 60.
Eventually I'll be on ford hp 60(kingpin) sterling 10.25 or shaved 14bt ff. linked, coil overs, 5.3 or 6.0, 4L60E, a case with a dana 300 doubler. Well that's the hopes and dreams of this build at least lol. Want to be able to run 42 s no problem. So 35 spline Detroit, 35 spline inners, 35 spline outers, and Yukon hardcore locking hubs
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Year: 1994
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37s on a d30 though
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I'll probably never build a 44 just because it's just as much work to build a 60.
Eventually I'll be on ford hp 60(kingpin) sterling 10.25 or shaved 14bt ff. linked, coil overs, 5.3 or 6.0, 4L60E, a case with a dana 300 doubler. Well that's the hopes and dreams of this build at least lol. Want to be able to run 42 s no problem. So 35 spline Detroit, 35 spline inners, 35 spline outers, and Yukon hardcore locking hubs
? I'll probably never build a 44 just because it's just as much work to build a 60.
Eventually I'll be on ford hp 60(kingpin) sterling 10.25 or shaved 14bt ff. linked, coil overs, 5.3 or 6.0, 4L60E, a case with a dana 300 doubler. Well that's the hopes and dreams of this build at least lol. Want to be able to run 42 s no problem. So 35 spline Detroit, 35 spline inners, 35 spline outers, and Yukon hardcore locking hubs

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From: City of Trees, CA
Year: 93 2 door
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
37s on a d30 though
?
I'll probably never build a 44 just because it's just as much work to build a 60.
Eventually I'll be on ford hp 60(kingpin) sterling 10.25 or shaved 14bt ff. linked, coil overs, 5.3 or 6.0, 4L60E, a case with a dana 300 doubler. Well that's the hopes and dreams of this build at least lol. Want to be able to run 42 s no problem. So 35 spline Detroit, 35 spline inners, 35 spline outers, and Yukon hardcore locking hubs
? I'll probably never build a 44 just because it's just as much work to build a 60.
Eventually I'll be on ford hp 60(kingpin) sterling 10.25 or shaved 14bt ff. linked, coil overs, 5.3 or 6.0, 4L60E, a case with a dana 300 doubler. Well that's the hopes and dreams of this build at least lol. Want to be able to run 42 s no problem. So 35 spline Detroit, 35 spline inners, 35 spline outers, and Yukon hardcore locking hubs

wow 6.0, coilovers, 1 tons, you know what those are all the parts to? a tube buggy lol
I know what you mean though. I love Cherokees till the bitter end and probably wont stop the useless spending on mine either
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From: Justin, TEXAS
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
05+ SD axles are wear its at. The 60 dwarfs any KP and stronger. 35 spline inner and outers stock, massive unit bearings, massive brakes, 1.5" thick shafts... The sterling is 1.5" smaller than a stock 14b housing, 35 spline shafts, 1.5" thick shafts, factory disc brakes, and like I said they don't need to be shaved. The only advantage of a KP is steering. But there are companys offering new knuckles or knuckle machining now.
Hmmm either way I may just have to consider the 05+ SD d60 now lol
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From: Justin, TEXAS
Year: 1988
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
And yeah it will probably turn into all tube with a xj firewall haha I'll see how far I can get with mine right now as it is still road driven but once I get daily driver that's not a motorcycle I'll start turning it into a cherobuggy lol.
Or keep it kinda simple and make it like cholothuas's xj. That's a very clean full bodied capable one ton xj


