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Old 09-16-2015, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Whitepeej
I have plans to lift my xj 3" and wanna put 31x10.50 tires on it. Do I need to re-gear my axle?
Unless you live in an area with a lot of hills, I don't consider it necessary with 31s. Even if you drive up and down a hill all day as a hobby, I'd give it a shot with stock gears first and see if you're content
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Originally Posted by Whitepeej
I have plans to lift my xj 3" and wanna put 31x10.50 tires on it. Do I need to re-gear my axle?
Assuming a 4.0L engine...

Automatic transmission, not really. What Clown said. With any larger tires on an AW4 it is in your best interest to get an auxiliary transmission cooler, regardless of gears.

If you have a manual transmission you can swap axles with those from an XJ with an automatic for a bit of a bump. Larger tires are a bit tougher on the clutch.
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I have a 95 xj country 4.0. Its needing tires and I want to lift it before I do tires so I can get the biggest tire possible. So I found this lift (see link) and my question is what additional parts will I need and i have stock 15" rims. I read 31" tires will fit a 3" lift. What tires size numbers do I need. Thanks in advance.

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I have a 95 xj country 4.0. Its needing tires and I want to lift it before I do tires so I can get the biggest tire possible. So I found this lift (see link) and my question is what additional parts will I need and i have stock 15" rims. I read 31" tires will fit a 3" lift. What tires size numbers do I need. Thanks in advance. http://www.rustysoffroad.com/jeep-su...-pack-kit.html
In the Modified Cherokee section there is a sticky by New Kind Of Clown (NKOC) regarding what you need. I will say that 3" on stock control arms will not ride as smooth as stock. If this is a DD then longer control arms would be good. Those shocks look like generic white body ones. They are nothing special and will wear out quickly. Again, for a smooth ride Rubicon Express or Bilstein's are good options.
With 3" of lift you can mostly clear a 31x10.50. Unless you've got a rim with more back spacing, you'll probably rub on LCA's at full lock. You may not clear flares at full flex either. Extended bump stops are a good idea. Idk of NKOC's chart mentions brake lines, but you'll probably need to relocate or get extended ones all the way around. Your sway bar links might be too short after the lift.

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i have a 2000 jeep cherokee sport 4.0 6 cyl auto
my leaf springs are basically flat so I'm debating putting a lift in or just replacing them
i was thinking maybe a 3 in lift but would that mean an sye and different driveshafts??
i dont wanna spend crazy money and i dont want to replace control arms
im not sure if thats even possible
little help would be appreciated for a newbie over here
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Originally Posted by mbrad150
i have a 2000 jeep cherokee sport 4.0 6 cyl auto my leaf springs are basically flat so I'm debating putting a lift in or just replacing them i was thinking maybe a 3 in lift but would that mean an sye and different driveshafts?? i dont wanna spend crazy money and i dont want to replace control arms im not sure if thats even possible little help would be appreciated for a newbie over here
Haha, refer to my previous post. No, you probably won't need to worry about DS angles at 3" but it's possible. Usually 3" is safe, But there's exceptions. If you had vibes after lift, they would be minimal and ok until you did SYE.

Oh and if you just did the rear leafs for now don't use OEM leaves. They'll be flat again real soon. Especially if you flex it. Look into OME leaves. They make a 1.5" leaf pack that is very legit. Couple that with a 1.5" shackle and bam! Good to go.

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Originally Posted by VTJeep
In the Modified Cherokee section there is a sticky by New Kind Of Clown (NKOC) regarding what you need. I will say that 3" on stock control arms will not ride as smooth as stock. If this is a DD then longer control arms would be good. Those shocks look like generic white body ones. They are nothing special and will wear out quickly. Again, for a smooth ride Rubicon Express or Bilstein's are good options.
With 3" of lift you can mostly clear a 31x10.50. Unless you've got a rim with more back spacing, you'll probably rub on LCA's at full lock. You may not clear flares at full flex either. Extended bump stops are a good idea. Idk of NKOC's chart mentions brake lines, but you'll probably need to relocate or get extended ones all the way around. Your sway bar links might be too short after the lift.
Thanks for your help. I'm a newbie obviously and It is a daily driver. Will I be better getting a kit somewhere or getting better quality parts individually?
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Originally Posted by Colonel Crispy
Thanks for your help. I'm a newbie obviously and It is a daily driver. Will I be better getting a kit somewhere or getting better quality parts individually?
Depends how much you're willing to spend and how tall you want your lift

Edit: And how much you care about ride quality

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Originally Posted by Colonel Crispy
Thanks for your help. I'm a newbie obviously and It is a daily driver. Will I be better getting a kit somewhere or getting better quality parts individually?
Well, like Clown said, price plays into this. What is your budget? A good option is Rubicon Express (RE) they make really nice kits and are a bit more expensive. Zone Offroad (a BDS aggregate) makes nice stuff that's slightly cheaper than RE. Look at OME for an idea about how pricey small lifts can be!

3" coils
Bilstein or RE shocks
LCA's (lower control arms)
1.5" OME leaves
1.5" shackles
Track bar
Brake line extensions for rear (just relocate fronts)
Disconnectable sway bar links
Extended bump stops- def front, maybe rear
TIRE SIZE?? 3" and 31's is a good combo of you don't want to trim or only do a little trimming. Might need aftermarket rim with more back spacing, 4.00-3.75 is a good range. Stock is 5.25" and you'll rub your LCA's with a 29" tire.. At full flex you might rub flares a bit, but this is where extended bump stops help.
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In my opinion, the best box kit on the market is the Rubicon Express 4.5" SuperFlex kit. I would order by phone and ask to upgrade to a double shear track bar, and I'd be happy.

But, for a few hundred dollars more, I pieced together a kit online for my girlfriend (before she got a Wrangler) that would've used the best parts from each company
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what is everyones thoughts on the TSL SX? Im debating a 29x10.50-15LT? I have a few other options for that price range like the dick cepek Mud country, or the toyo Open country all about the 150-200 dollar range. Suggestions, thoughts? this is a future buy nothing really immediate.
95 sport 3 inch lift. Intended use (weekend warrior, very light on road 20 miles a day maybe,, dont care about noise)
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Originally Posted by VTJeep
Well, like Clown said, price plays into this. What is your budget? A good option is Rubicon Express (RE) they make really nice kits and are a bit more expensive. Zone Offroad (a BDS aggregate) makes nice stuff that's slightly cheaper than RE. Look at OME for an idea about how pricey small lifts can be!

3" coils
Bilstein or RE shocks
LCA's (lower control arms)
1.5" OME leaves
1.5" shackles
Track bar
Brake line extensions for rear (just relocate fronts)
Disconnectable sway bar links
Extended bump stops- def front, maybe rear
TIRE SIZE?? 3" and 31's is a good combo of you don't want to trim or only do a little trimming. Might need aftermarket rim with more back spacing, 4.00-3.75 is a good range. Stock is 5.25" and you'll rub your LCA's with a 29" tire.. At full flex you might rub flares a bit, but this is where extended bump stops help.
I wasn't wanting to buy rims. Not now anyways, probably on the next set of tires. As far as budget goes around 400. A little more if I needed to to do it right. Will spacers help with rubbing issue? Thanks for this information.
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Originally Posted by Colonel Crispy
I wasn't wanting to buy rims. Not now anyways, probably on the next set of tires. As far as budget goes around 400. A little more if I needed to to do it right. Will spacers help with rubbing issue? Thanks for this information.
To be frank, that's a very small budget for a Jeep lift. Let me give it a shot with a quick search:

2x Old Man Emu 3" Leaf Springs ($135ea)
http://amzn.com/B004PA0VIC

2x 3" Coil Spacers ($50)
http://amzn.com/B006IWM0NE

4 generic shocks, ~$35ea ($140 total)
Extended rear brake line
New leaf spring bushings (x4)
Sway bar links
Relocate your front brake lines
You'll need to buy a longer track bar, but you can get away with using the stock one for a little while. Your alignment won't be quite right

You can save a lot of money by buying used parts. What I have listed would likely cost a little over $500 altogether.

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Originally Posted by NewKindOfClown
In my opinion, the best box kit on the market is the Rubicon Express 4.5" SuperFlex kit. I would order by phone and ask to upgrade to a double shear track bar, and I'd be happy.

But, for a few hundred dollars more, I pieced together a kit online for my girlfriend (before she got a Wrangler) that would've used the best parts from each company
It is a daily driver for the next few years and then it's going to be a toy. I'd say ride quality is important now. I was thinking 3" then I saw that 4.5" kit you mentioned the other day but then I went back to 3" being enough. What's the saying buy once cry once though. I don't want to buy a kit and then need additional parts and of course I want the best bang for my buck. I think now I'm understanding more than I have in days.
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Originally Posted by Colonel Crispy
It is a daily driver for the next few years and then it's going to be a toy. I'd say ride quality is important now. I was thinking 3" then I saw that 4.5" kit you mentioned the other day but then I went back to 3" being enough. What's the saying buy once cry once though. I don't want to buy a kit and then need additional parts and of course I want the best bang for my buck. I think now I'm understanding more than I have in days.
Sounds like you're on the right track. That's a hard lesson that takes a lot of us two or three lift iterations before we finally admit it


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