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Year: 1993 YJ Wrangler
Engine: 4.0 I6
Well, I found a product number on my coil springs for my lift. Turns out, it's a Tuff Country EZ-Ride 3.5" kit w/ replacement leaf springs. http://www.tuffcountry.com/lift-kits/jeep/cherokee/
The guy that gave it to me included everything but the LCAs, the Transfer case drop brackets (no loss there - don't want 'em), and apparently the shims for the leaf springs... at least I don't recall seeing any on them.
This is a brand I'm not familiar with. Anyone ever run Tuff Country? I've search google for some reviews but couldn't find anyone with an XJ running them. Is it a good lift? Ride well? Gonna fall apart?
The guy that gave it to me included everything but the LCAs, the Transfer case drop brackets (no loss there - don't want 'em), and apparently the shims for the leaf springs... at least I don't recall seeing any on them.
This is a brand I'm not familiar with. Anyone ever run Tuff Country? I've search google for some reviews but couldn't find anyone with an XJ running them. Is it a good lift? Ride well? Gonna fall apart?
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Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
From what I've heard and read, I'd place TC in line with RC and Rusty's. I wouldn't buy it. People who have run better kits say TC is crap, and most of the reviewers who recommend their TC kit tend to have reviews that read like this: "Wish it was taller, but it's great!" I don't listen to those people because they aren't actually saying anything.
"5/5 shipped fast"
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Year: 2001
Model: Cherokee
I know Rough Country isn't desirable by many, but what are your thoughts about this on Craigslist near me? I was gonna buy long arms this summer (Serious Offroad) & am at 5.5" of lift now on 35's. should I offer $750 for the kit? -or- Pass?
http://buffalo.craigslist.org/pts/4932531264.html
Picture of what he's sellin...
http://buffalo.craigslist.org/pts/4932531264.html
Picture of what he's sellin...
1999 Cherokee Build
I am looking to lift a 1999 Cherokee and have read through about as many threads as possible to see what will work and what won't. I have came to the conclusion that you can run 31/10.50R15 tires with a 3" lift with no issues and no trimming. I am looking at installing a Metalcloak 3.5" lift and was wondering it the extra lift would allow me to run 32/11.50R15 tires without any trimming. Also if I run the 31/10.50 tires will I have enough clearance with the stock rims. Thanks
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I am looking to lift a 1999 Cherokee and have read through about as many threads as possible to see what will work and what won't. I have came to the conclusion that you can run 31/10.50R15 tires with a 3" lift with no issues and no trimming. I am looking at installing a Metalcloak 3.5" lift and was wondering it the extra lift would allow me to run 32/11.50R15 tires without any trimming. Also if I run the 31/10.50 tires will I have enough clearance with the stock rims. Thanks
You really should be looking at aftermarket wheels with 3.5-4" of backspacing, and at least a minor trim with a 3.5" lift. The flares and bumper caps on your '99 are more intrusive than the older (pre-97) style.
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Without trimming, you're gonna have problems even with 31s, and you'll rub while turning on the street with stock wheels.
You really should be looking at aftermarket wheels with 3.5-4" of backspacing, and at least a minor trim with a 3.5" lift. The flares and bumper caps on your '99 are more intrusive than the older (pre-97) style.
You really should be looking at aftermarket wheels with 3.5-4" of backspacing, and at least a minor trim with a 3.5" lift. The flares and bumper caps on your '99 are more intrusive than the older (pre-97) style.
You want rims. Or just live with the rubbing (bad idea on stock LCAs, I have no clue what Metal Cloak provides)
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Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 L
'97 lift indecision
Hey guys. Problem about how much to lift the jeep.
Im going to get the zone 3 inch full packs. Definately going to cut the fenders when I upgrade from my 30s...BUT...im seriously considering getting spacers and shackles to make it 4 inch lift. Problem is....I will most likely want 33s to top it off for offroad stance since 31s will appear small.
AND its my daily driver 20 minutes on highway to work. I want to get into the wheeling bad but my negative arch 2 inch lift would most likely fail offroad today so I havnt done much. I want lockers and bumpers and everything. But after the lift I would still like to have some paycheck left instead of paying for gas.
D30 up front, c 8.25 29 spline in rear.
Thoughts?
Im going to get the zone 3 inch full packs. Definately going to cut the fenders when I upgrade from my 30s...BUT...im seriously considering getting spacers and shackles to make it 4 inch lift. Problem is....I will most likely want 33s to top it off for offroad stance since 31s will appear small.
AND its my daily driver 20 minutes on highway to work. I want to get into the wheeling bad but my negative arch 2 inch lift would most likely fail offroad today so I havnt done much. I want lockers and bumpers and everything. But after the lift I would still like to have some paycheck left instead of paying for gas.
D30 up front, c 8.25 29 spline in rear.
Thoughts?
I've tried to search for this so please don't beat me up for my question. I'm planning on lifting my 95 XJ 6.5 inches and I have a np231 t-case with an SYE kit that I bought and it came with a driveline but the guy couldn't tell me how much of a lift was on the XJ it came out of, I have a 8.25 rear. Can anyone give me a round about mesurement of the length of the rear DL? Even if you don't have the exact number just something close. Thanks for the info
Hey guys. Problem about how much to lift the jeep.
Im going to get the zone 3 inch full packs. Definately going to cut the fenders when I upgrade from my 30s...BUT...im seriously considering getting spacers and shackles to make it 4 inch lift. Problem is....I will most likely want 33s to top it off for offroad stance since 31s will appear small.
AND its my daily driver 20 minutes on highway to work. I want to get into the wheeling bad but my negative arch 2 inch lift would most likely fail offroad today so I havnt done much. I want lockers and bumpers and everything. But after the lift I would still like to have some paycheck left instead of paying for gas.
D30 up front, c 8.25 29 spline in rear.
Thoughts?
Im going to get the zone 3 inch full packs. Definately going to cut the fenders when I upgrade from my 30s...BUT...im seriously considering getting spacers and shackles to make it 4 inch lift. Problem is....I will most likely want 33s to top it off for offroad stance since 31s will appear small.
AND its my daily driver 20 minutes on highway to work. I want to get into the wheeling bad but my negative arch 2 inch lift would most likely fail offroad today so I havnt done much. I want lockers and bumpers and everything. But after the lift I would still like to have some paycheck left instead of paying for gas.
D30 up front, c 8.25 29 spline in rear.
Thoughts?
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Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 L
No dan youre fine. I realize now I didn't really ask much of a question there. I want to know if going into 4 inch on 33s will still be a effective dd or will I need to spend money on all new gears to save fuel and power.
My Plans, Your Opinions....
So I have been lurking for about 6 months now doing a lot of research and am ready to start doing some small mods on a stock 99 XJ classic. At the same time I want to make sure my thoughts are not going to put me further behind. (I am currently saving for an OME 3" lift kit for next summer)
Our goals are not anything anything extreme, in fact we may not do much much more than we have not already done stock on 225/75/15. We just want to make the family camping trips on the forest service roads of Colorado a bit easier and maybe open up some trail options. I definitely want 3" or less to [hopefully] avoid SYE and other major mods.
Budget has to be considered, and this year much of it will go into tires (30 x 9.5 x 15 [maybe 31s some day], cargo rack, trailer hitch, tow hooks, etc.) Therefore I am looking at a combination of these two home brewed lifts.
http://www.rocklizardfabrications.co...dget_boost.htm
http://www.lunghd.com/Tech_Articles/...udget_Lift.htm
I picked up some front coils from a 2004 ZJ, and I was quite pleased as 90% of the work in getting them off was already done. My plan was to use those and either 1.75" or 2" spacers.
However, as I was walking back up the line I saw a '95 ZJ with all four springs just sitting on the ground. I did not know which were front and which were rear, but two were shorter than the '04 fronts and two were 3" longer and had a tighter "hook" on one end. For $10 I grabbed the longer ones. They are pictured below.
Everything I have read states to use front coils, if the longer ones are rear coils would that be an issue? Any suggestions as to which ones to use? (trying one set, measuring, and re-doing the whole job if needed would not be the end of the world, but if I can hedge my bets the first time....)
For the rear I picked up a set of leafs, but I honestly have no idea of their condition as the XJ I got them from was in the air.
What I do know is that my current ones are flat, almost to the point of negative arch. So the one I picked up cannot be any worse than what I currently have. The way I see it I have three options, which would you suggest knowing that I plan to do an actual kit in one year?
Thanks for any thoughts you have and all the other great tips and ideas I have found here.
Our goals are not anything anything extreme, in fact we may not do much much more than we have not already done stock on 225/75/15. We just want to make the family camping trips on the forest service roads of Colorado a bit easier and maybe open up some trail options. I definitely want 3" or less to [hopefully] avoid SYE and other major mods.
Budget has to be considered, and this year much of it will go into tires (30 x 9.5 x 15 [maybe 31s some day], cargo rack, trailer hitch, tow hooks, etc.) Therefore I am looking at a combination of these two home brewed lifts.
http://www.rocklizardfabrications.co...dget_boost.htm
http://www.lunghd.com/Tech_Articles/...udget_Lift.htm
I picked up some front coils from a 2004 ZJ, and I was quite pleased as 90% of the work in getting them off was already done. My plan was to use those and either 1.75" or 2" spacers.
However, as I was walking back up the line I saw a '95 ZJ with all four springs just sitting on the ground. I did not know which were front and which were rear, but two were shorter than the '04 fronts and two were 3" longer and had a tighter "hook" on one end. For $10 I grabbed the longer ones. They are pictured below.
Everything I have read states to use front coils, if the longer ones are rear coils would that be an issue? Any suggestions as to which ones to use? (trying one set, measuring, and re-doing the whole job if needed would not be the end of the world, but if I can hedge my bets the first time....)
For the rear I picked up a set of leafs, but I honestly have no idea of their condition as the XJ I got them from was in the air.
What I do know is that my current ones are flat, almost to the point of negative arch. So the one I picked up cannot be any worse than what I currently have. The way I see it I have three options, which would you suggest knowing that I plan to do an actual kit in one year?
- Leave my current main spring and second spring, and then add the entire "new" pack to it as a donor. Tempting as it would mean not having to fight with removing the bushing bolts, pressing in new bushings, and so on. I could add leaves from my current pack as well if needed.
- Completely remove my current pack, install the "new one", and add leaves from the current pack as needed.
- (Not my favorite option) There are too many variables. A current worn pack, an unknown donor pack. Time to break out the wallet you cheap b*****d! Buy either
- New OEM packs ($100 each, free shipping, includes bushings) and longer shackles, then use leaves from the junkyard pack and/or the shackles as needed to match the front
- Buy new 3" packs (The only ones I have found that are not part of an entire kit are from Zone Off Road, and the reviews have not been great. Plus they are $200 each by the time bushings and shipping are added)
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As an owner of a 1999 with 3.5" lift up front I can vouch for about 75% of this. The correct part is that stock rims WILL have rubbing with 31x10.5R15 tires. The wrong part is that trimming will help. The tires rub on the control arms... ain't no trimming those!
You want rims. Or just live with the rubbing (bad idea on stock LCAs, I have no clue what Metal Cloak provides)
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Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: AMC 242 4.0L
I just did that lift, with some extended shackles and coil spacers. I'm now at 4.5" so to compensate for the height I needed to also install adj. Track bar, SYE, extended break lines, adj. LCAs and a new rear drive shaft. In short, the lift gets a lot more expensive when you go over 3" and that's before tires, wheels or spacers and trimming. I am happy with the zone lift so far, haven't trail tested it yet though. If you haven't ordered it yet give rockridge4wd a call, they were excellent.
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Year: 1997
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I just did that lift, with some extended shackles and coil spacers. I'm now at 4.5" so to compensate for the height I needed to also install adj. Track bar, SYE, extended break lines, adj. LCAs and a new rear drive shaft. In short, the lift gets a lot more expensive when you go over 3" and that's before tires, wheels or spacers and trimming. I am happy with the zone lift so far, haven't trail tested it yet though. If you haven't ordered it yet give rockridge4wd a call, they were excellent.
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Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Decided to replace all of the u-joints in the Jeep. Picked up 4 of them today, front axles and rear drive shaft joints. Still need the 3 for the front drive shaft and the strap and bolt kit for the rear, but looking at the weather forecast I probably wont get a chance to do the work for a couple weeks
Going to change the diff fluids too while I am at it and finally inspect my differentials for peace of mind.
Going to change the diff fluids too while I am at it and finally inspect my differentials for peace of mind.