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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 09:31 AM
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I know that this has been round and round on this board but I have one specific question that I cannot find the answer... I have a 2000 XJ 2WD and the donor is a 1997 XJ 4x4.... Can I strip the entire drivetrain and swap it to the 2000 with no issues? I have seen articles that indicate the 97' is somewhat different from the 00' but I can this just bolt right up and I go on my merry way? Thanks for the help.
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 09:32 AM
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No transmission sensors are different.
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 09:33 AM
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Is this something in the wiring harness, cause my next question is, what if I swap the tranny as well into the '00?
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 09:35 AM
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You have to swap the tranny.


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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 09:38 AM
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Ok so I will just swap the entire drivetrain and transmission and its all plug and play?
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 11:01 AM
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Sorta, you'll need the tcu from the 97 as well.
I did a 2k to 97 transmission swap for a 2wd just recently, here's how its done.

You'll want to take the black 5 (7?) pin connector from the 2k transmission and splice it into the 97 transmission. Two of the wires from the 2k don't exist on the 97 so close them off with e tape or an end crimp or something.

Swap the 2k nss, and cps.

While you have the 97 transmission out, its a good idea to check your solenoids (mine were bad. Of course I found out after I replaced the filter screen in the pan and installed the transmission) this can be done with a multi meter and that black 5 (7?) pin connector. Check the resistance of the wiring when ground to the case of the transmission, you'll want to see about 11-16 ohms on 3 of the wires, and nothing on 2 (4?) of them (speed sensor). If you get anything else, they should be replaced. I'm pretty sure all years are interchangeable, the site I checked for replacements had only one part number for all years. I just used the ones out of the 2k, as they were all good.

The 97 tcu will work with the 2k connector. Its up under the drivers side dashboard on the right side. Its a little aluminum box that has a big grey connector. It should also say "aisin" somewhere on it. The connector needs to have 2 fins ground off the outside, don't panic, its just plastic. Using a knife, or very delicately with a dremel, remove the two fins on the top of the connector on the edges. Unfortunately the 97 tcu is a different shape than the 2k tcu, so you have to get creative when you bolt it back in. I notched the bottom bolt hole of the 97 tcu because its a pain to find the threads otherwise, and mounted it to the left side hole that was meant for the 2k tcu. I left the other bolt alone.

I think that's it? If I remember any more ill let you know. Ill also post pictures of some key things and verify anything I put a question mark on.
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 11:04 AM
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Ish. You may not have the wiring for the transfer case sensor but most of us drive with that light inoperative anyway lol (I drive a stick so I'm used to looking down if I don't remember how I left the shifter).

A big factor will actually be emissions on your XJ. Do you have the California Emissions setup with two mini cats and 4 O2 sensors in the exhaust manifold? If so the High Pinion D30 from a '97 won't fit - the drive shaft will bash the exhaust unless you're lifted (I think it's 4" or so to get clearance). Federal Emissions (49-state) with a single big catalytic converter and 2 O2 sensors shouldn't have this problem.
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 12:02 PM
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The 2K has only one large cat so just the standard federal emissions, I was thinking my other option is just drop my 2K motor in the 97 and be done, depends on what shape the 97' is in I go to look/pick up next week......
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Ish. You may not have the wiring for the transfer case sensor but most of us drive with that light inoperative anyway lol (I drive a stick so I'm used to looking down if I don't remember how I left the shifter).

A big factor will actually be emissions on your XJ. Do you have the California Emissions setup with two mini cats and 4 O2 sensors in the exhaust manifold? If so the High Pinion D30 from a '97 won't fit - the drive shaft will bash the exhaust unless you're lifted (I think it's 4" or so to get clearance). Federal Emissions (49-state) with a single big catalytic converter and 2 O2 sensors shouldn't have this problem.
*****. My 2k is a CA jeep. I'm doing my 4x4 swap soon. Looks like I know how high I'll be lifting though!
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 12:17 PM
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Cant ya just use the 2000 sensors on the 97 tranny ?
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 12:32 PM
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By the looks of it JerryTheJeep says no, but good question....... That would be nice if thats possible.....
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 12:37 PM
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JerryTheJeep did you do an automatic or manual tranny swap in your 2k? Both of mine are automatic, didnt know if this changed anything?
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 12:42 PM
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Found this...http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1053970
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 12:46 PM
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I saw that also on another post, but I was just looking at replacement NSS and CPS and they show the same part for 97-01
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 12:56 PM
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I have a 2000 nv 3550 in my 89 had a ba/10 I swapped the speedo an reverse switch with no issues. Don't see how swapping whole sensor from one to the other don't work. Unless the positions of them have changed.
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