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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by kansasxj
will the stock axles hold up the weight of a 4bt? will they handle the torque as long as you dont get stupid with the throttle?
It might until you upgrade the tire size and dump the clutch one good time. Now a stock 4bt is a different story.
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by cherokee90
Idk why everyone thinks it's going to rip the body apart. Let's see the 4bt weighs around 750 pounds, and the jeep i6 weighs 500ish add a winch and bumper on front of that and you around or over the weight of a bt4. Just make a crossmember for the motor mounts and I believe you will have more then enough strength for the new motor.
yup you will, and a built d30 and maybe even stock 8.25 will support it, if your trying to run 35+ tires and all that jazz might as well look for a d60 haha
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by xj_maniac_newb
It might until you upgrade the tire size and dump the clutch one good time. Now a stock 4bt is a different story.

well i been doing A LOT of research and on the 4btswap forum i found a 4bt xj swap and it pretty much showed how to reinforce the unibody to support the weight and be able to with stand the torque i havent read all of it yet but from the looks of this forum it pretty much breaks down the whole swap also when i start the swap im going to make a video of how i did it so for future xj swappers they wont have to go through as much hassle to find info on it but thats at a future date and ill add the link on here.
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 10:22 PM
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Would def wanna see this
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 10:42 PM
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Instead of swaping out the dash why not use the original xj sending units installed on the 4bt? They are both chrysler products so they might even be the same sending untis anyway. I doubt you could get the tach to work but the others should be doable.

Use an early auto trans (727) and you should be an easy fit to the np231. It is only a 3 speed auto but works well and does not use a computer.

I would hope you can get 30mpg. My 1ton dodge 6bt gets 22mpg if you drive it easy.

Thx-Ace
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 10:47 PM
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A very large amount of bread trucks ran a 4bt paired to a gm turbo 400. If you get a engine from a bread truck you could easily run a trans and t case from a 70s chevy pickup.
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Old Jan 11, 2012 | 10:51 PM
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not to mention that would also more than likely have the new process 205 case which is much stronger than the 231 and you would not need to do an sye since it comes with a fixed yoke
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Greybush

well i been doing A LOT of research and on the 4btswap forum i found a 4bt xj swap and it pretty much showed how to reinforce the unibody to support the weight and be able to with stand the torque i havent read all of it yet but from the looks of this forum it pretty much breaks down the whole swap also when i start the swap im going to make a video of how i did it so for future xj swappers they wont have to go through as much hassle to find info on it but thats at a future date and ill add the link on here.
never said the xj unibody wouldnt support it. People underestimate the xj unibody when in all reality it is just as strong or stronger than some framed vehicles. for example, Ive hit 3 cars in my jeep in the same spot and the only thing tweeked is my fender. hit one car in my toyota and bent the frame just enough to **** me off
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by jeep19xj91
A very large amount of bread trucks ran a 4bt paired to a gm turbo 400. If you get a engine from a bread truck you could easily run a trans and t case from a 70s chevy pickup.
All the older chevy trucks had their front differentials on the passenger side so you would have to flip the transfer case to get it to work. I wonder if some place like Advanced Adapters could make everything to bolt he stock t case to whatever trans you use??
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 07:27 AM
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Just wondering, have you contacted these guys yet? Seems like they've already done all the research you need to put a 4bt into a jeep.
http://www.jdjeeps.com/
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Old Jan 12, 2012 | 07:40 AM
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a guy i know does these conversions too.

you can email greg for any questions.

http://www.overlanddiesel.com/Home.html
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Cherockee
Just wondering, have you contacted these guys yet? Seems like they've already done all the research you need to put a 4bt into a jeep.
http://www.jdjeeps.com/

yea i looked into these guys and asked for some advice and havenot heard anything back yet

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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by greybush
well i been doing a lot of research and on the 4btswap forum i found a 4bt xj swap and it pretty much showed how to reinforce the unibody to support the weight and be able to with stand the torque i havent read all of it yet but from the looks of this forum it pretty much breaks down the whole swap also when i start the swap im going to make a video of how i did it so for future xj swappers they wont have to go through as much hassle to find info on it but thats at a future date and ill add the link on here.
heres pictures of the frankenstein xj
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Old Jan 17, 2012 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Greybush
yea i looked into these guys all their stuff is way to over priced and mainly for framed jeeps no xjs
Here's an XJ from their customer's project link:
http://www.jdjeeps.com/images2/diese...s/XJ/index.htm

As for being over priced, I couldn't say. It sure seems like it would be a better value for people who don't want to spend the time or moeny to figure it out on their own and would rather draw upon someone else's professional experience. Just sayin' ...
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Old Feb 12, 2012 | 11:44 AM
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so i been looking for a 4bt back home i dont want a new one or rebuilt one i was looking for one that needed to be rebuilt and there was no luck but i ran across my buddy who has a 97 dakota with the 3.9 v6 so im debating if im going to put that in or just put the stock 4.0 back in it and stroker it out give me you guys thoughts on this either way i ccan get both engines cheap and i still have to redo my powertran due to being a 2wd so cant add those in im going for performance in the long run im kind of leaning towards the 4.0 stroked out get back at me let me know what you guys think thanks
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