Good plan and thanks for the input as well.
See guys, this is why the pic references help. Now someone who was wondering about "all the hearsay" can physically see what's true and what's not and in turn helps them make a decision.

 

As I stated in this post and others the D30 was the major concern and I did have both in my hands at the same time, should have taken a pic. I run stock axles and would much rather change those than a gear set.


That was what I based my decision on after reading about then I ordered both sets and compared them to see for myself and paid to ship one set back. I was running 33's at the time but had been shopping for some 35's and beadlocks.


I gained some knowledge from this on a rear selectable that I had not thought about before thanks to Frank for that. I'm old but learning once in a while also when it comes to Jeeps

 

That is why I like threads like these. I am relatively new at wheeling and building a rig. with out the info that Frank and others share I would be spending money I don't have. I know one thing when it comes to an up-grade as costly as gears and lockers I only can do it once.
I agree I'd rather fix my axles shafts rather than having to recover my rig from the trail.

 

 

I totally agree. I just installed 4:56 with Eaton Tru tracs in my XJ,, SYE and 31 KM3's,, works GREAT, the lower gear is a no brainier, drives excellent.

 

this thread is 5 years old...

 

4 years,,12 months and 31 days to be exact,,,

 

I have been collecting all the necessary parts and tools to re-gear and build a set of axles for my rig. I have ARB lockers for the danna 30 and the danna 44 they are used and are loaded with 4.55 gears. It is taking forever to put them together but that's ok. I have been struggling with whether I would rather have 4.10 gear instead. I more worried about how my rig to preform on the street than how it preforms on the trails.

Well I stumbled across a set of axles loaded with 4.10 gears , Chrysler 8.25 and Danna 30 out of a 96 Xj. Everything feel tight (good). So for $400 I will have the chance to try them out before I build the other axles. I figure if I like the 4.10s, It would the best way to be sure and buying new gears before the build.

I have someone who would like the axles after all is said and done. After Thanksgiving we will swap in the axles. I'm really looking forward to have the gearing and tires correct.

With 33's I feel the axles will be fine with either gear set.

By the way I don't care how old a thread is if it helps a noob.

 

IMO,, 4:10's are not steep enough for 33's. You want to figure in the reciprocating weight of the bigger tires as well as the circumference. I'm thinking 4:56's would be a much better choice, if it were mine and I was buying gears anyway, I would go 4:88's. Everyone has a different goal when re gearing their Jeep, all I can speak to is my results with what I used. Automatic 97 XJ,, stock 7 inch star wheels, BFG KM3's 31 inch, 4:56 with Detroit Tru Trac Torsen posi front and rear,,, HP Dana 30 and 8.25 rear. Like I mentioned 2250 at 60 MPH,,,2550 at 70. The biggest change is it never labors, no constant downshifting, very peppy in town and no shifting around on most hills or high winds on the highway. Lots of power, well, at least for a stock 6 cyl. Not to sure of the mileage at this point, but we dont buy a Jeep for mileage,, it's not a Prius. It seems respectable, but I dont drive it much. Usually trailer it when going to Silver Lake Mich or to Colorado,, a 500 to 850 mile trip for me.

 

4.56 gears would be better on the street for 33s, on the trail you won't notice much difference between 4.10 and 4.56.

 

Nice cherry pepper red!
I have a manual, when I went from 3.07 to 3.55 it was night and day different. it going to be a very similar jump. I figure it's a pretty easy swap same as when I took axles from a automatic powered Xj I gained gearing and a 8.25 instead of the Danna 35. and won't hurt to run my rig that way while I have the axles out to rebuild them with the lockers. You are probably right that 4.55 gearing will be even better. I have ran a trail with someone who has the same setup as mine with 4.56 gears and said he loves it. But like I said before I plan on using mine for overlanding rather than rock climbing. It will be a low cost trial before I sink the time and money in the final set-up. I already have 4.55 gears (used) for the axles I'm building. Just think 🤔 way not?

 

Since you have the 4:10's, I'd put them in and try it. As stated, gearing is a personal choice and hinges on what your trying to accomplish. If your looking to go on long drives to get where your going, a higher ratio sounds like it would work best for you. Also depends on how fast you like to drive.My highway RPM's are with 31 inch tires and an automatic, drives great, but I wouldn't want to run 75 MPH all day cross country. I'm getting old and lazy, and more motorized toys than I need, so mine sits in the garage and I trailer it to locations, meet up with friends, kinda a vacation. I have a Chevy 3500 one ton Express van,trailer towing package, 6.0 motor, and lots of creature comforts. Involved heavily in sand drag racing years back, towed a glass body center seater with a nitrous Chevy motor, towed it behind my jacked up, 72 GMC Jimmy, beat the crap out of you, but as a young guy, didn't give a **** about a nice ride. Gravelrama every year, lots of Midwest races also back then. The new 4X4's are really something, but fond of my old XJ. Have fun with your rig. Curios, years back I did Black Bear pass several times, trails around St Elmo, Leadville, now looking for some nice trails, no tough rock crawling or mud, just some nice off road paths with good views. And favorites for you in Colorado?

 

I just swapped out 4.11s and 33x10.5x15 KO2s (more like tall 32s) for 4.56s and 255/85r16s (an actual 33" tall tire). I've only driven to the alignment shop - about 20 miles on the street and with an AX15, it feels perfect! Fifth gear comes up quick and I'm sure it'll be buzzy at highway speeds but the 4.0 seems to be okay with sustained higher PRMs.

I was never really hurting for power with this one to be honest - even when I ran 31s and 3.55s like Greens because, well, I would just downshift if needed. 4.11s and 33x10.5s were just fine - this is just a bit better haha.

 

Gosh, were do I start? Since all of my 4 wheeling has been here (Colorado) I guess I can attest to my favorite areas. First is right there in the Alpine loop area. Went there a couple of trips to spend 4-5 days touring around the most scenic, historic ming areas and quaint little touristy towns. That would be my number #1 favorite. And a close second is the Saint Elmo/Buena Vista area. Both of which you mention, I guess it's because it has everything a guy could love and is less then 2 hours drive from my home. A area I am also fond of is down near Colorado Springs/Woodland Park, there is a great trail (Schubarth) just off Rampart range rd. that is exactly what you describe easy some great value views. I go down there as often as I can. Last year camped in 2 feet of snow after wheeling Schubarth with about a foot and a half on that trail.


Yeah I do ok with the 3.55 gear and my 33 x 12.5 x 15 Ko2s (32"s is right!) But would like to be able to use 5th gear some day. I think if 4.10 do it for me it would be great. I think if it works and later I stumble across a Rubicon transfer case my rig would perfect. I might be dreaming but why not?