33" on 4.10
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From: Mississippi
Year: 94
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Is it really worth changing the stock 3.55 to 4.10 for 33's? I dont plan on going larger than that but wanted a 2nd opinion. Its my daily driver and I dont want to spend the time and money on making the change if there is no significant difference. Can I get some testimonies please? Can I get an AMEN!
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I read on a thread somewhere, just yesterday, that if you weren't going to make the jump to 4.56, then sticking with the 3.55 was just as good. Someone said they went to 4.10's and couldn't really tell a big difference over the 3.55's.
Believe the suggestion was if you were planning on a possible rear axle swap and could find an 8.8 with the 4.10's, then it would be worth matching the front up, but otherwise not a huge difference.
Believe the suggestion was if you were planning on a possible rear axle swap and could find an 8.8 with the 4.10's, then it would be worth matching the front up, but otherwise not a huge difference.
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I read on a thread somewhere, just yesterday, that if you weren't going to make the jump to 4.56, then sticking with the 3.55 was just as good. Someone said they went to 4.10's and couldn't really tell a big difference over the 3.55's.
Believe the suggestion was if you were planning on a possible rear axle swap and could find an 8.8 with the 4.10's, then it would be worth matching the front up, but otherwise not a huge difference.
Believe the suggestion was if you were planning on a possible rear axle swap and could find an 8.8 with the 4.10's, then it would be worth matching the front up, but otherwise not a huge difference.
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Front and rear axle match ratios; you have a 3.55 ratio front and rear.
I would just get the tires and the 3.55 D44 and run it before you upgrade gears. It's very doable but it just robs power.
I hope you aren't assuming you can just throw gears in and call it a day. I think you may be alittle farther out of you element than you think on this...
Just bolt up the D44 with the 3.55 ration since your D30 is the same and run it. you won't break anything and will give you time to save the money if you really want to upgrade gears and have them installed for you. A gear upgrade is very meticulous and VERY expensive to have them installed (~500 or more per axle depending on who installs them), which it seems to me like you definitely will have to.
Good luck
I would just get the tires and the 3.55 D44 and run it before you upgrade gears. It's very doable but it just robs power.
I hope you aren't assuming you can just throw gears in and call it a day. I think you may be alittle farther out of you element than you think on this...
Just bolt up the D44 with the 3.55 ration since your D30 is the same and run it. you won't break anything and will give you time to save the money if you really want to upgrade gears and have them installed for you. A gear upgrade is very meticulous and VERY expensive to have them installed (~500 or more per axle depending on who installs them), which it seems to me like you definitely will have to.
Good luck
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This is all the info I need! Thanks guys. I didn't think it was necessary with all of the gear calcs I've been playing with but I wanted some testimonies!
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If 33s on 3:55s was just fine, no one would regear.
The only reasonable way to only go 4:10s is doing the 8.8 swap and matching the front. That is what I did, but on 34s, found it unbearable. Power loss was not so bad, but I was getting 10 mpg. If you do a regear, go 4:56+
The only reasonable way to only go 4:10s is doing the 8.8 swap and matching the front. That is what I did, but on 34s, found it unbearable. Power loss was not so bad, but I was getting 10 mpg. If you do a regear, go 4:56+
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Originally Posted by 1tonxj
Geez I swear if they made 7.17's for the d30/8.8 you would have guys beleiving 4.88-5.13 was under geared for 33-35's ...

Sorry but you guys are very confusing. I guess its intentional. I can't seam to get a straight answer ether. I have a 94 XJ , auto,4.0, and with 33s.. I lost a lot of power on the Highway.. Its constantly changing in and out of overdrive. MPG dropped to 7-8 city 12-13 HW. Changing from stock 3.55 to 4.10 has to make a difference.. Would 4.56s be more like stock with the 33s????/ Lets be serious guys> Thanks
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Originally Posted by magator
Sorry but you guys are very confusing. I guess its intentional. I can't seam to get a straight answer ether. I have a 94 XJ , auto,4.0, and with 33s.. I lost a lot of power on the Highway.. Its constantly changing in and out of overdrive. MPG dropped to 7-8 city 12-13 HW. Changing from stock 3.55 to 4.10 has to make a difference.. Would 4.56s be more like stock with the 33s????/ Lets be serious guys> Thanks
Try this chart, they dont have an aw4. But picking the ax-15 will give you a close enough answer
http://www.manoian.net/jeep/gear_ratio_calculator.html
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From: Colorado...BAILEY,CO...BYATCH !
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For the OP a simple way to look a tire size/gearing is for every 1 inch +or- you change your gearing by 1/10th ...so 3.55 with 28 inch stockers going up to 33's is like making those 3.55s a set of 3.05's ,so gear wise 4.10 r/p would make for 3.60 ,which basicly equals stock 3.55 gearing . I don't think a set of 33 radials on near stock weight axles like a 30/8.8 combo makes for enough extra weight/rolling resistance to justify the need for near 5 series gears ...now going deeper does makes sense b/c we all know 33's will become 37's ,So why waste money on multiple re-gears ,but on a d30 I caution against deeper than 4.10 because the deeper the ratio gets the smaller the PINION GEAR GETS and the d30 already has a small r/p and 4.56-5.13's pinion on a d30 looks like an acorn ,So if you need gearing for tires bigger than 4.10 you need to 86 the d30
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Sorry but you guys are very confusing. I guess its intentional. I can't seam to get a straight answer ether. I have a 94 XJ , auto,4.0, and with 33s.. I lost a lot of power on the Highway.. Its constantly changing in and out of overdrive. MPG dropped to 7-8 city 12-13 HW. Changing from stock 3.55 to 4.10 has to make a difference.. Would 4.56s be more like stock with the 33s????/ Lets be serious guys> Thanks
aw4 trans gearing
2.80 1st gear
1.56 2nd I think
1.1 3rd so -3.55 now like- 3.05
.75 4TH (OD)
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If you are at sea level, then yeah, 4:10s would prob be ideal for 33s. I'm saying I followed all the advice that 4:10s were good for 33-35s and it sucked.


