3 inch lift with 33s?
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From: Midland Park, NJ
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Here's a good thread with a lot of info for running big tires on a small lift . .
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/low...ks-tips-32980/
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f2/low...ks-tips-32980/
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From: errrvre where
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: I6 4.0L HO, JBA headers, 99 intake, #703 injectors
Originally Posted by XJ Rat
Reread my post. You are correct. One of us knows not about suspension travel. On solid axles, when one side goes down, the other wants to go up. As an example, take a look at any competition rig, whether rock crawler or desert racer. They have travel BOTH up and down. I would rather not have my Jeep at precarious angles on mild trails because I am limiting my up travel. But that is me.
Stated is, "downtravel can drop as far as the "obsticle" lets you." Ever hear of the revolver shackle by Teraflex? This shackle would allow massive amounts of down travel. Many did not like it because with that massive down travel there was a price...limited traction because tires were slipping. Why, because the opposite side could not go up far enough to allow weight (traction) on the dropping side. Many years ago, after witnessing the massive amount of drop and the associated loss in traction, I passed on this idea.
Will 33" tires work? It depends on what you call off-roading. Everyone has a different definition. Yes, 33" tires can be had on an XJ with 3" of lift. Lots of trimming and lots of bumpstop.
the idea of the lowcog is to get the hight of the axle off the ground while keeping your center of gravity low enough so you can get in and out of those rediclous angles. lowcogs do have uptravel. its not alot considering what they are made for. but you dont have zero uptravel unless you overbumpstop and undertrim.
but the overlying idea is that you can still build a more then capable rig with 33s and a 3inch lift. and if you couldnt then people wouldnt do it.
theres advantages and dissadvantages for every type of lift setup. not one setup is going to be the best for everything. just because you had a bad experience doesnt mean it cant be done. it kinda just seems like youve tryed it and didnt like the idea and never tryed to make it work. maybe for his style of wheeling it may rule over a bigger lift. who knows, i sure as hell dont. but it can be done and be made to work.
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From: errrvre where
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
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just alittle addon. those competition rigs are built for that exact thing. competition and most of the time if its actualy hardcore wheeled with fullwidth tons the tires dont sit under the jeep anyways. they stick out far enough to allow the trimming/bumpstoping to be minimal witha medium sized lift. unless its like an 8" overkill lift.
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From: papillion nebraska
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
I run 3 and 33s and love it everyday! The biggest difference in up travel I found was to cut and fold that pinch weld inside the deobt wheel well it opens it up a ton and of course trim the Hell out of the fronts and all I did was cut and fold the rears and bumpstop accordingly but all in all I love it I'm going to be putting 37s and long arms on within the next few months and hoping to be able to stay at 3 inches would go to four if I had to but that's it and with the front and rear trimmed to the body line I should be good stuffing those big ol turs in there oh and full widths of course
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33" tires with a 3" lift does not require a little trimming. It requires a lot of trimming. More in the rear than can realistically be done.
As an example, I run 32x10.5x15 Swamper TSL Radials with 4-1/4" total lift (A 3-1/2" Rubicon Express suspension system with 3/4" spacers in front and 3/4" shackle extensions out back). I did a little (lot) trimming on my rear flares and trimming + fender hammering on my front flares and fenders. I still rub a little in the front with the sway bar disconnected.
Fixing with bumpstops will net you about 1" uptravel. If you are OK with that, have at it.
33" tires with 3" of suspension lift is OK for a street XJ. Just do not attempt to take it off road. All the fenders will let you know the mistake you just made.
As an example, I run 32x10.5x15 Swamper TSL Radials with 4-1/4" total lift (A 3-1/2" Rubicon Express suspension system with 3/4" spacers in front and 3/4" shackle extensions out back). I did a little (lot) trimming on my rear flares and trimming + fender hammering on my front flares and fenders. I still rub a little in the front with the sway bar disconnected.
Fixing with bumpstops will net you about 1" uptravel. If you are OK with that, have at it.
33" tires with 3" of suspension lift is OK for a street XJ. Just do not attempt to take it off road. All the fenders will let you know the mistake you just made.
33" with 3" is the same ratio as 31s and zero lift and I do fine with that.
hey i run 33s with 3'' an bump stops, it does great off road.. but running 2'' adapters an 5x5.5 ford wheels an they stick out a bit but alot more stable goin up werid stuff. so answer yes but u will trim abot 2.5-4''. but you will like it greatly
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From: Big Bear Lake, CA
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6 Power Tech Engine (High Output)
1) What is the ideal back spacing for 33x12.5x15 with a 3 inch lift?
2) How would a stock Dana 35 hold up to tires this size (and width) for moderate wheeling?
3) Would a 3:55 gear ratio cut it for tires this size. If not, what would be the ideal ratio for tires this size (4.56 maybe)?
Thank you for your patience. I am new to the XJ world.
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From: meriden Ct
Year: 2000
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I have a few questions regarding this subject. Please feel free to redirect me if the answer is on this site already, because I have not yet found it.
1) What is the ideal back spacing for 33x12.5x15 with a 3 inch lift?
2) How would a stock Dana 35 hold up to tires this size (and width) for moderate wheeling?
3) Would a 3:55 gear ratio cut it for tires this size. If not, what would be the ideal ratio for tires this size (4.56 maybe)?
Thank you for your patience. I am new to the XJ world.
1) What is the ideal back spacing for 33x12.5x15 with a 3 inch lift?
2) How would a stock Dana 35 hold up to tires this size (and width) for moderate wheeling?
3) Would a 3:55 gear ratio cut it for tires this size. If not, what would be the ideal ratio for tires this size (4.56 maybe)?
Thank you for your patience. I am new to the XJ world.
2)D35 might be ok open, depending on what your doing. Certainly not ideal.
3) I ran 3.55 with 33's for a bit, and it sucks compared to being on real gears. 4.56 would in general be general best.
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From: Joliet, IL
Year: 1998,2001
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I'm running 33x12.5s on a 3"(actually more like 3.5") lift with no bumpstops(not even the factory stops. I trimmed the front and rear fenders moderately and I have had no problems at all(other than rubbing at full lock due to only having 4" BS). I have had my jeep teetering on the front pass and rear drivers wheel and thats the only time I've ever hit the fenders. Like others have said all jeeps are a bit different. If at all possible I would definitely regear for 33s I am still running 3.55 and I can't wait til I have time and $$ to regear.
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From: Big Bear Lake, CA
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6 Power Tech Engine (High Output)
Thank you for your quick reply. I greatly appreciate it. How much would regearing cost for a shop to do on average, as I am not willing or prepared to take on that project myself. Thanks again!
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but she had 3 inch RC lift with packs on 33 x12.50 chopped fenders. It road like a dream
