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Old 09-21-2010, 09:52 PM
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anybody ever done it, if so how much fabrication would be involved and is it even worth it. i know they made zj's with aw4's so i guess thats what you'd have to use
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The V8s didn't use AW4s only the 4L so you'd need the tranny as well.
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the 93 4.0 ZJ had the AW4 NOT ALL 93 ZJ'S have the AW4..

And the AW4 will not directly bolt to a 5.2/5.9...
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interesting to know, btw this is all hypothetical
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Thats too much work for only 30-40 increase in horsepower. I know its hypothetical, but id go with a hemi or a small block engine if i were to change. Someone on here has a Chevy 350 in his, but he bought it that way.
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You could do a mopar 408 stroker..
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Ya, i forgot about a stroker! That makes more sence than anything. Good call.
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Originally Posted by nw-xj-scott
You could do a mopar 408 stroker..
Originally Posted by DUDE454
Thats too much work for only 30-40 increase in horsepower. I know its hypothetical, but id go with a hemi or a small block engine if i were to change. Someone on here has a Chevy 350 in his, but he bought it that way.
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Ya, i forgot about a stroker! That makes more sence than anything. Good call.
You'd still have a ton of custom work to do, on top of the cash for a stroker.

Wouldn't a GM350 be really cheap, easy to find, easy to get parts, and be the same amount of work as the 408?
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Originally Posted by DUDE454
Thats too much work for only 30-40 increase in horsepower. I know its hypothetical, but id go with a hemi or a small block engine if i were to change. Someone on here has a Chevy 350 in his, but he bought it that way.
4.7 5.2 5.9 are all small blocks just like a 350 small block which is a 5.7 and they are all about the same h.p.A hemi can and has been done but we dont have that kind of money to blow.So you wont be doing that one
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
You'd still have a ton of custom work to do, on top of the cash for a stroker.

Wouldn't a GM350 be really cheap, easy to find, easy to get parts, and be the same amount of work as the 408?
Maybe he don't want a chebby to ruin the jeep there, and no it wont be really cheap and easy at all
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Originally Posted by coyote1
anybody ever done it, if so how much fabrication would be involved and is it even worth it. i know they made zj's with aw4's so i guess thats what you'd have to use
It can be done Ive seen a 360 (5.9) in a mj and an xj. It will cost a good chunk of money but if you can fab and weld and do electric, you can do itYou can run a 727 4wd tranny or the newer ones to. Also you will be able to ru n a 205 trans case which is one hell of a case.Many options on trannys and transfer cases also good choices of which motor,Just quite a bit of time and money will be invested.
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Originally Posted by rich
Maybe he don't want a chebby to ruin the jeep there, and no it wont be really cheap and easy at all
You missed my point, big surprise.

I guarantee you'll find a GM350 for less than the total cost of a 408 stroker, so yes, it would indeed be cheap.

And just as much fabrication would go into the GM350, so ease of install is a wash. You still have to fab, one way or the other.

I can see not wanting to use anything else but a Jeep motor, though.
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Gm 5.3l, 4l60e, np231....

Cheap and reliable.

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if you do any kind of engine swap its going to be a major headace....

Frankz is putting a 5.3 in his xj...

here's his build

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1007477
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Originally Posted by rich
Maybe he don't want a chebby to ruin the jeep there, and no it wont be really cheap and easy at all
Originally Posted by miglia-spyder
Gm 5.3l, 4l60e, np231....

Cheap and reliable.
Originally Posted by Tankerblade
if you do any kind of engine swap its going to be a major headace....

Frankz is putting a 5.3 in his xj...

here's his build

http://www.naxja.org/forum/showthread.php?t=1007477
Right, that is what I was getting at. Any swap will be a headache. But, as I was saying, with as many GM350s as there are out there, the 350 wouldn't be a bad choice. They are cheap, and easy to find parts for, both OEM and aftermarket. You can also make a 350 into a stout motor, but you can do that to any motor if money isn't an issue.

Those 5.3s are pretty good motors as well. I helped a buddie of mine do a HG on one, not too tough to work on.

On a side note, with all the bracketry and such that GM puts on their motors, I've found them to be one of my least favorites to turn a wrench on.

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