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Will the new Cherokee be known as the "XK"?

Old Oct 25, 2013 | 02:45 AM
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Just a thought, as it seems to follow their pattern.
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 05:13 AM
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I think it's called the KL.
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 06:23 AM
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^^^ Yep, that stupid but capable monstrosity is the KL.

The XK was the Commander.
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by cm75
I think it's called the KL.
Yup its the KL, which is the first new Jeep vehicle in the "L" generation. As much as people here loath the KL Cherokee, imagine what else Jeep will be producing in this new generation.
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Old Oct 25, 2013 | 05:45 PM
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Its definitely not an xj nor will it ever be respected like our xjs. The back of it reminds me of a mini van. And resembles nothing of an xj besides its Cherokee name. The front is almost cool looking and the trail hawk addition is sorta cool but a bone stock xj will still out do it easy if ya ask me. Id get a commander or new grand Cherokee be4 I would the new KL. Well I think I'm done with my "new Cherokee review" haha
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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 07:10 PM
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I'd have tagged it the PU. I've heard this new mini van will come with soccer ball storage and preferred parking up front at all the big malls. It's not an XJ, it's a tumour. Someone at Chrysler needs to be spanked. Jeep does not require a mini van or a crossover ( must be latin term for mini van in the wrong lane ) in the product line up. This is Jeep. Nature will find a way to resolve this; like precision acid raining. I can't wait for the next C for C campaign to target these. Will myth busters start blowing these up in 2015? I'd watch the show again. Is this what comes of being infested with Daimler and Fiat influence?
Did they bring the Plymouth design team out of the closet? Oh, did I mention I am not a fan of the traditional name being applied to the non traditional new product model?
Just my 2 cents less a penny, probable still an overpriced opinion.
To each their own, just not in my back yard mudhole.
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 12:32 AM
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XJ = 1984-2001 Cherokee/Wagoneer
KJ = 2002-2007 Liberty in NA, Cherokee everywhere else
XK = 2006-2010 Commander
KK = 2008-2013 Liberty in NA, Cherokee everywhere else
KL = 2014-???? Cherokee

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I'd have tagged it the PU. I've heard this new mini van will come with soccer ball storage and preferred parking up front at all the big malls.
Why does a "Jeep" have a feature to help you find parking spots in a mall when you're too busy texting to look out the window? Zillion speed transmission, okay. FWD/AWD, okay. Base model that is functionally a sedan, okay. Place to hang grocery bags, okay. But what the hell. It literally senses gaps in vehicles as you drive past. I cannot explain this.

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Someone at Chrysler needs to be spanked. Jeep does not require a mini van or a crossover ( must be latin term for mini van in the wrong lane ) in the product line up.
Sure they do, Jeep is the ONLY division of Chrysler that makes any damn money! They need one of everything! Seriously though, the minivan/crossover is the Grand Cherokee, and they still have the Patriot and Compass to fill these niches.

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Just my 2 cents less a penny, probable still an overpriced opinion.
It is considering 2 cents is rounded down now!

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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 02:24 PM
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have you guys heard the rumor that the 2016 redesigned wrangler may have IFS???!!!
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 03:53 PM
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Jeep needs to bring back the XJ, CJ-10, MJ, and SJ before they bring Cherokee back with this crap. Turning more into luxury vehicles now...the first Jeep didnt even have doors or a top, it just got any job done that was thrown at it.

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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 12:48 AM
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I don't think it looks that bad. I've seen their "off-road" video and it's like a sad joke, but I don't think you guys have shopped for cars lately. First off, Jeep still makes the Wrangler, you can buy that if you want. Most modern cars have blind-spot monitoring, parking assistance, radar cruise control, auto high beams, auto wipers, auto brakes, mobile phone sync, etc. You could apply most of what you're saying to the entire industry. Ford is developing a system that will scan gaps along the road and parallel park a car completely on it's own, with no driver input.

Jeep is keeping up and staying relevant. If I want something with AWD, to take a long road trip (where MPG counts), be able to pull a trailer, drive on dirt, and be fairly comfortable, are you saying that I should not buy a Jeep, and go for a Subaru Outback, Ford Escape or Chevy Equinox instead? Should Jeep forgo that revenue in order to preserve the image of our 10-30 year old vehicles?
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by electromage
I don't think it looks that bad. I've seen their "off-road" video and it's like a sad joke, but I don't think you guys have shopped for cars lately. First off, Jeep still makes the Wrangler, you can buy that if you want.
There's talk that it will get IFS/IRS to meet CAFE requirements. This is the wrong approach - if CAFE is the problem, then revise the drivetrain. Why does no-one make a "dieselectric" vehicle? The market is ripe for one!

Originally Posted by electromage
Most modern cars have blind-spot monitoring,
Mixed feelings. Your head does turn, after all

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parking assistance,
Stupid. If you can't park, don't drive.

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radar cruise control,
Bosch calls this "Adaptive Cruise Control" in their eighth edition Automotive Handbook, and the idea has some merit (primarily because the nitnoys on the road these days can't pick a damned speed and drive it!)

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auto high beams,
Why? This strikes me as a bit less useful than DRL or TPMS...

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auto wipers,
You can't figure out it's raining by looking out the window?

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auto brakes,
Automatically do what?

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mobile phone sync,
NO. Just NO. And, there's even talk of showing adverts on in-dash displays - this strikes me as nothing more nor less than a display of criminal weapons-grade stupidity.

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etc. You could apply most of what you're saying to the entire industry. Ford is developing a system that will scan gaps along the road and parallel park a car completely on it's own, with no driver input.
Whatever happened to learning to park parallel yourself?

Originally Posted by electromage
Jeep is keeping up and staying relevant. If I want something with AWD, to take a long road trip (where MPG counts), be able to pull a trailer, drive on dirt, and be fairly comfortable, are you saying that I should not buy a Jeep, and go for a Subaru Outback, Ford Escape or Chevy Equinox instead? Should Jeep forgo that revenue in order to preserve the image of our 10-30 year old vehicles?
"Staying relevant" is not necessarily a good thing. And, a Jeep is a tool, just as a Chevvy truck, or a Ford Crown Vic, or a Subaru wagon of whatever sort - all of these are tools, and they're built differently because they're expected to handle different jobs! Road manners in a pickup truck? People, if you want a "smooth ride," a pickup truck is not the tool you want - a mid-size to full-size four-door sedan is going to be more in line with your desires. A pickup truck is a working vehicle, and should ride & handle like one (I expect different handling with different vehicle types, because they're designed to do different things.)

You wouldn't use a sledgehammer to drive nails into wood paneling, nor would you use a tack hammer to drive a railroad spike. Why does every vehicle in production have to be expected to do anything anywhere - whatever happened to individual character and getting one or two jobs done very well (instead of doing every job in a half-assed manner?)

EDIT - In case you haven't guessed, I'm not a fan of feature creep. I'm even less a fan of any purported "safety device" that merely allows a driver to abdicate responsibility in controlling the vehicle.
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Old Oct 29, 2013 | 04:20 AM
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5-90, I absolutely agree, most of those "safety" features are just going to lead to worse drivers. People would rather be texting or reading email than driving, and the more they can get away with, the less they will pay attention to what they're doing. It's so easy to drive, yet people manage to screw it up all the time.

I've even disabled my key/headlight buzzer and cruise control. If I buy a new car, I'll skip every option I can, and if I can't skip something I'll figure out how to disable it.

From the pictures and video I've seen, the new Cherokee has a hard time keeping four wheels on the ground, even on very mild terrain. I'm hoping that there will be some aftermarket improvements that make it more capable off-road.
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