What would your 2nd choice be...
07-06-2014, 03:54 AM
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What would your 2nd choice be...
If you couldn't get you hands on a Jeep (XJ or ZJ), what would your 2nd choice for a 4x4 SUV be (on a budget)?
07-06-2014, 04:57 AM
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Probably a 1st gen 4-runner but even those are a little pricy to be considered "budget". Maybe an early 80s Bronco or a Samurai? The Bronco would have to be a beater to be anywhere close to an XJ in price. You didn't specifically exclude the WJ, that would be my first choice but I suspect I'm not allowed.
07-06-2014, 07:59 AM
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toyota pickup truck 4cyl 5spd 4x4 solid front axle, or an isuzu vehicross 4x4 ladder on frame because nobody has one of those.
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07-06-2014, 12:41 PM
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Probably a K5 Blazer or Bronco, though finding either in decent shape "on a budget" can be a bit challanging these days.
07-06-2014, 01:50 PM
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I can't believe I forgot my first choice... 1st generation (1981-1991) Isuzu Trooper preferably with a 2.8 turbo diesel. It's about as close to an XJ as you're gonna get and they can be bought for similar prices.
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07-06-2014, 04:16 PM
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Probably a 1st gen 4-runner but even those are a little pricy to be considered "budget". Maybe an early 80s Bronco or a Samurai? The Bronco would have to be a beater to be anywhere close to an XJ in price. You didn't specifically exclude the WJ, that would be my first choice but I suspect I'm not allowed.
07-06-2014, 04:18 PM
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I've been looking at the K% Blazers and the Bronco's as well. Just wanted an idea of what my other options would be if necessary. Hadn't even considered the Isuzu Troopers. Didn't know enough about them.
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The first gens are pretty good, especially with the diesel (hard to find though), the 4-cyl is pretty good too but a bit lacking in power, the 2.8L GM V6 is ok but not great. While it likely won't be an issue in AZ, like most older Japanese vehicles they weren't rust-proofed very well so in places that use salt they are very dificult to find in drivable condition (rusted out frames are common), much less "rust-free".
The second gens got bigger and heavier (4,400 lbs.), and the automatics are almost guarenteed to fail (they used a GM 4L30E in a vehicle that weighed over 1,000lb more than it was designed to handle), a manual (Aisin AR5) was an option but is less common. The engines (3.2L/3.5L V6)also have an issue where if the PCV system gets plugged up they will quickly burn oil and suffer severe damage from oil starvation if it isn't caught quickly so it is very importent to keep the PCV system clean (and check the oil level regularly). Like most Japanese OHC/DOHC engines they also have a timing belt which is importent to replace at the perscribed intreval as these are interference engines.
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The first gens are pretty good, especially with the diesel (hard to find though), the 4-cyl is pretty good too but a bit lacking in power, the 2.8L GM V6 is ok but not great. While it likely won't be an issue in AZ, like most older Japanese vehicles they weren't rust-proofed very well so in places that use salt they are very dificult to find in drivable condition (rusted out frames are common), much less "rust-free".
The second gens got bigger and heavier (4,400 lbs.), and the automatics are almost guarenteed to fail (they used a GM 4L30E in a vehicle that weighed over 1,000lb more than it was designed to handle), a manual (Aisin AR5) was an option but is less common. The engines (3.2L/3.5L V6)also have an issue where if the PCV system gets plugged up they will quickly burn oil and suffer severe damage from oil starvation if it isn't caught quickly so it is very importent to keep the PCV system clean (and check the oil level regularly). Like most Japanese OHC/DOHC engines they also have a timing belt which is importent to replace at the perscribed intreval as these are interference engines.
for a little retro fun:
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07-06-2014, 10:58 PM
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The first gens are pretty good, especially with the diesel (hard to find though), the 4-cyl is pretty good too but a bit lacking in power, the 2.8L GM V6 is ok but not great. While it likely won't be an issue in AZ, like most older Japanese vehicles they weren't rust-proofed very well so in places that use salt they are very dificult to find in drivable condition (rusted out frames are common), much less "rust-free".
The second gens got bigger and heavier (4,400 lbs.), and the automatics are almost guarenteed to fail (they used a GM 4L30E in a vehicle that weighed over 1,000lb more than it was designed to handle), a manual (Aisin AR5) was an option but is less common. The engines (3.2L/3.5L V6)also have an issue where if the PCV system gets plugged up they will quickly burn oil and suffer severe damage from oil starvation if it isn't caught quickly so it is very importent to keep the PCV system clean (and check the oil level regularly). Like most Japanese OHC/DOHC engines they also have a timing belt which is importent to replace at the perscribed intreval as these are interference engines.
The second gens got bigger and heavier (4,400 lbs.), and the automatics are almost guarenteed to fail (they used a GM 4L30E in a vehicle that weighed over 1,000lb more than it was designed to handle), a manual (Aisin AR5) was an option but is less common. The engines (3.2L/3.5L V6)also have an issue where if the PCV system gets plugged up they will quickly burn oil and suffer severe damage from oil starvation if it isn't caught quickly so it is very importent to keep the PCV system clean (and check the oil level regularly). Like most Japanese OHC/DOHC engines they also have a timing belt which is importent to replace at the perscribed intreval as these are interference engines.
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