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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 08:00 PM
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Soo I just went and test drove a new wrangler.....

They're pretty sweet.....

32k...

I feel guilty like I cheated on my XJ....
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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 08:11 PM
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Was it at least the new Rubi?
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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 08:24 PM
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It was the 10th anniversary rubi... Fkn sweet, listed at 46k

I'm imaging what my XJ could be with 30k into it instead...
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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 08:27 PM
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One of those would look pretty sweet on 35's... Just sayin.
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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 08:40 PM
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32 grand?

for one of these?
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if thats for a 10th anniversary thats a good deal considering they just came out, but thats still 32 freakin grand.

you know which engine it has in it right? 3.6 pentastar v6. it has decent power, but its mostly top end and not much low end torque. also i would do some research on the head problems the 3.6s are having right now. we get a lot of head replacements for these engines because of the valve seat design. yeah its covered under warranty but do you really want to drop your car off at a dealer, have your new jeep be down for some time and have someone open up your new wrangler? yeah these jeeps are sweet but they are pretty expensive for what you get.

the title of the thread IS "talk me out of it"
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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 08:49 PM
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Yes what are the problems!!! Lol


Jeep has the 400 mile per tank diesal coming out too
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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 09:12 PM
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XJ vs JK? Should be an easy choice imo. Comparing a vehicle that has been proven to be durable, reliable, and very capable to an overpriced, and overly Chrysler influenced version of what they think a Jeep should be? There's no comparison. Keep the real Jeep, the XJ. The 4.0 should be enough reason on its own to pick an XJ over the JK.

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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 9294Forrest
I'm imaging what my XJ could be with 30k into it instead...
^this! spend 30K on a xj and I can bet my left nut it'll do better than that rubi stock, heck only a 1K to get the 249 t-case, that still leaves you 29K for engine upgrade/rebuild, cage, bumpers, tires, suspension(linked front and rear?) etc....

compare to spending 46K and then spending another 5k-15K to get it really good.

in the end its about your decision, but imho id rather save money and just upgrade the xj
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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 11:14 PM
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What's a 249 t case???
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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 11:15 PM
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Do you mean 242? I have that one stock
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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 11:28 PM
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249? I thought Rubicons had a 241 with 4:1 low range? Or was that just the TJ and LJ?

Regardless, for what the Rubicon 4:1 case costs, I could build an NP231/D300 doubler with a 4:1 low in the 300, and throw that in the XJ. Atlas 4 speed gearing with nowhere near the cost.
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Old Jun 9, 2013 | 11:36 PM
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Is that a factory functional hood vent on that grey Rubi?
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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by kirknd4spd
249? I thought Rubicons had a 241 with 4:1 low range? Or was that just the TJ and LJ?

Regardless, for what the Rubicon 4:1 case costs, I could build an NP231/D300 doubler with a 4:1 low in the 300, and throw that in the XJ. Atlas 4 speed gearing with nowhere near the cost.
yup my bad, meant the 241 that the rubi's have, and I would guess it depends on location since here a 300 runs for $500 at least and the adapter plates are spendy and the 4:1 is spendy for it too.

random thought, what if you had a 4:1 in the 231 and a 4:1 in a 300, what gearing would that be?!?!?
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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 04:28 AM
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Keep the xj, put 10 grand to make it nasty. Then pocket the rest lol

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Old Jun 10, 2013 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Demonoid369
yup my bad, meant the 241 that the rubi's have, and I would guess it depends on location since here a 300 runs for $500 at least and the adapter plates are spendy and the 4:1 is spendy for it too.

random thought, what if you had a 4:1 in the 231 and a 4:1 in a 300, what gearing would that be?!?!?
4:1 low in both cases would only give you 1:1, 4:1, and 16:1 ratios.
4:1 in only the 300 would give you 1:1, 2.72:1, 4:1, and 10.88:1.
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