Cherokee Chat General non-tech Cherokee chat
XJ/MJ/ZJ/WJ

Should i get this?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 18, 2010 | 10:28 AM
  #1  
jd2311900's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 193
Likes: 0
From: clarkston, MI
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default Should i get this?

I went and took a look at an 86 cherokee 2door. i live in michigan and this thing had no rust. floors looks good with a flashlight. It's a 2.8 5 speed 4x4, 2.8 was just rebuilt. new alternator, water pump, shocks, and all new exhaust from the cat back. He told me $2000 and its mine. I was thinking $1500. i've heard good and bad things about the 2.8.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2010 | 10:41 AM
  #2  
Brad M.'s Avatar
Seasoned Member
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 325
Likes: 0
From: Utah
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by jd2311900
I went and took a look at an 86 cherokee 2door. i live in michigan and this thing had no rust. floors looks good with a flashlight. It's a 2.8 5 speed 4x4, 2.8 was just rebuilt. new alternator, water pump, shocks, and all new exhaust from the cat back. He told me $2000 and its mine. I was thinking $1500. i've heard good and bad things about the 2.8.
Absolutely NOOOOOOOO. The 2.8 is pure junk. I can find used '90s models for that price with all the power goodies and the 4.0 motor. The only way I'd consider buying that jeep is if I could get it for under $500, and I would use it as a buildup rig and swap in the 4.0, lift, bumpers, lockers, etc.

How do you plan to use it? Daily driver/commuter? Build project?
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2010 | 10:41 AM
  #3  
jeepdavetj's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
From: Campobello, SC
Year: 1991
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 HO
Default

2.8 is a turd. But you can change that to a 3.4 and it should be better.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2010 | 10:42 AM
  #4  
Brad M.'s Avatar
Seasoned Member
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 325
Likes: 0
From: Utah
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by jeepdavetj
2.8 is a turd. But you can change that to a 3.4 and it should be better.
A 3.4? Are you talkin' Chevy, Toyota,... ? Why would he not just swap it for the 4.0?
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2010 | 10:46 AM
  #5  
winston427's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 5,900
Likes: 10
Model: Cherokee
Default

That is wasy to high of an asking price for a 86 in any condition. Give it some time and search around a little. The 2.8 V6 is underpowered and unreliable. You should be able to find a Cherokee in good condition with the much more reliable 4.0 for under 2K.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2010 | 10:52 AM
  #6  
ol"blue's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 28,068
Likes: 6
From: Tenn. and Mich.
Year: 2004
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.7L V8
Default

Originally Posted by winston427
That is wasy to high of an asking price for a 86 in any condition. Give it some time and search around a little. The 2.8 V6 is underpowered and unreliable. You should be able to find a Cherokee in good condition with the much more reliable 4.0 for under 2K.
X2. I say pass on it.
Dan
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2010 | 11:08 AM
  #7  
G_P's Avatar
G_P
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 559
Likes: 0
From: Middlesex County CT
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 H.O
Default

You cant easily swap a 4.0 in place of the 2.8 because the engine compartments are slightly different.

just a heads up.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2010 | 11:16 AM
  #8  
jd2311900's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 193
Likes: 0
From: clarkston, MI
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

i have a 2000 with the 4.0 as a project. as far as unreliable. the motor was just rebuilt, what was bad about them? i had an s10 and it seemed ok.
Thanks for all of the reply's by the way.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2010 | 11:33 AM
  #9  
89Laredo's Avatar
CF Veteran
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 10,423
Likes: 61
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

The 2.8 used a 2-barrel Carb and had 115 hp and 150 lb·ft.
Now, compare that to the 4.0l Fuel Injected engine: 173hp for Renix, with 215 Ft lbs. Average of 190hp and 225 lb-ft for HO engines, and 193hp and 245 lb-ft in 2000-01.

Not only does the 4.0 have more power and torque, it is also much stronger. More reliable due to the fuel injection, and is just an all together better engine.

Originally Posted by Brad M.
A 3.4? Are you talkin' Chevy, Toyota,... ? Why would he not just swap it for the 4.0?
Yes, 3.4 Chevy V6.
A 4.0 would be a hard swap, you would have to get a wiring harness out of another jeep, the motor, the trans, Shifter, Tcase, etc. I dont know what you would do about the motor mounts...

Last edited by 89Laredo; Feb 18, 2010 at 11:45 AM.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2010 | 11:36 AM
  #10  
djlarroc's Avatar
CF Veteran
 
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 3,071
Likes: 0
From: Denver, CO
Year: 1997
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Definitely pass. You can get something better for less. Just wait.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2010 | 11:36 AM
  #11  
Brad M.'s Avatar
Seasoned Member
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 325
Likes: 0
From: Utah
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by jd2311900
i have a 2000 with the 4.0 as a project. as far as unreliable. the motor was just rebuilt, what was bad about them? i had an s10 and it seemed ok.
Thanks for all of the reply's by the way.
So this other one you're thinking of buying would just be a commuter, right? If you're just getting to and from work and stuff, I suppose it would suit those needs. The 2.8 V6 is anemic, weak, problematic, trouble-prone, a piece of crap... shall I go on? Seriously, if you're going to buy a 24 yr old jeep it's WAY overpriced. I guarantee you can find something newer with the 4.0 for the same price. Sounds like the guy is just trying to recoup some of the cash he just dumped into it. If you really need to know specific problematic areas with the 2.8, go to NAXJA and do a search on that motor and have fun reading all the threads bashing it.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2010 | 12:08 PM
  #12  
jd2311900's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 193
Likes: 0
From: clarkston, MI
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

ok im going to pass.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2010 | 12:14 PM
  #13  
Brad M.'s Avatar
Seasoned Member
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 325
Likes: 0
From: Utah
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by Defiance665
Yes, 3.4 Chevy V6.
A 4.0 would be a hard swap, you would have to get a wiring harness out of another jeep, the motor, the trans, Shifter, Tcase, etc. I dont know what you would do about the motor mounts...
Thanks for posting the numbers on those motors. I was going to put them up for the OP to see, but you beat me to it.

As for the swap, you really think the 3.4 would be a LESS-INVOLVED swap than the 4.0? I would argue that...
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2010 | 12:18 PM
  #14  
89Laredo's Avatar
CF Veteran
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 10,423
Likes: 61
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

I didnt say it would be less involved...
All I did was clarify on someone elses post. I then continued to post my opinion on the 4.0 swap.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2010 | 12:24 PM
  #15  
Brad M.'s Avatar
Seasoned Member
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 325
Likes: 0
From: Utah
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Ah, no worries. Thanks for the clarification.

Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:31 PM.