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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 05:12 PM
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You always need nor flex young padawan
Old Nov 21, 2012 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by djlarroc
are you still running stock brake lines? in the stock location?
No I tried unbolting the stock lines and straightening them out, but I still was pulling them off.

So I bought brake lines off of a chevy pick up. They are almost 6 in longer.

the rear is extended also.
Old Nov 21, 2012 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by N20jeep
you realize with 14" shocks in the stock location you will be bottomed out at ride right?

Correct. The only way to mount 14in shocks without losing travel is to extend the upper shock mount. Or the lower mount, but it would be harder to do.


My future plans are to run 38's with the same lift, and same suspension. Hopefully will have the 14in shocks by then.
Old Nov 21, 2012 | 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
Correct. The only way to mount 14in shocks without losing travel is to extend the upper shock mount. Or the lower mount, but it would be harder to do.


My future plans are to run 38's with the same lift, and same suspension. Hopefully will have the 14in shocks by then.
same axles to right?
Old Nov 21, 2012 | 05:39 PM
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and what lift height are you at?

i m at 6.5 in the front and i can flex out all day with my stock lines but the rear is a dakota brake line bc mine was a rubber band.

i also have 16.5 inch shocks in the back and they have about an inch left with a full tuck of the rear but i am moving them to the front and getting 15.5 inch ones for the back to be safe to not blow a shock
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Originally Posted by N20jeep
same axles to right?
Plans are to run the Chry in the rear and a 44 up front.

The 38's I am getting will only weight 20 more lbs than my current 32's.

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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by smeltmaster1
and what lift height are you at?

i m at 6.5 in the front and i can flex out all day with my stock lines but the rear is a dakota brake line bc mine was a rubber band.

i also have 16.5 inch shocks in the back and they have about an inch left with a full tuck of the rear but i am moving them to the front and getting 15.5 inch ones for the back to be safe to not blow a shock

IF you have short arms your lift does not matter as far as flexing. My short arm stops have been modified to allow more travel.

My lift is 3in.
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
Plans are to run the Chry in the rear and a 44 up front.

The 38's I am getting will only weight 20 more lbs than my current 32's.
You are either an axle breaker or your not. I am not. I have seen guys snap dana 60's easily. Its all in the way you wheel.

The 8.25 is as good as any yota or 44 out there. My only hang up with it is I would like to run 5:13's. Can't do that with a Chrysler rear.

I have an inch shaved off the 8.25 and I enjoy the clearance.
Old Nov 21, 2012 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
IF you have short arms your lift does not matter as far as flexing. My short arm stops have been modified to allow more travel.

My lift is 3in.
how do short arms have nothing to do with flex
and i have never heard of short arm stops you mean long arms i am kinda trying to learn this crap here bc i want the best flex for my lift right now
Old Nov 21, 2012 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 93XJLI
I don't see any reason for more flex than you have in those pics
internet bragging rights.

Originally Posted by holycaveman
Plans are to run the Chry in the rear and a 44 up front.

The 38's I am getting will only weight 20 more lbs than my current 32's.
but what 38" tire compares to the performance of the 32" federal couragia trainboner mt?
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Originally Posted by ktmracer419
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what 38" tire compares to the 32" federal couragia trainboner mt?
Alright smart guy.

At least my xj puts more than about 90hp to the ground

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Originally Posted by smeltmaster1
how do short arms have nothing to do with flex
and i have never heard of short arm stops you mean long arms i am kinda trying to learn this crap here bc i want the best flex for my lift right now
What I mean is that if you have short arms like me, our potential to flex is the same no matter what your lift is.

A short arm only has so much overall travel. Lift has nothing to do with it.

What I am doing is just trying to make the most out of my short arms.

On the axle side of your short arm mount. There is a portion that limits the amount of down travel. I modified mine just slightly to allow more down travel. For you since you have a larger lift, you really need drop down brackets in my opinion, or long arms. Because at 6.5 in you only have a few inches left of droop. Where I have about 6.5 inches.

I am flexing more probably because I should have a little more up travel and down travel compared to you? Do you have bump stop extensions? And what is your shock travel in the front?
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Originally Posted by holycaveman
What I mean is that if you have short arms like me, our potential to flex is the same no matter what your lift is.

A short arm only has so much overall travel. Lift has nothing to do with it.

What I am doing is just trying to make the most out of my short arms.

On the axle side of your short arm mount. There is a portion that limits the amount of down travel. I modified mine just slightly to allow more down travel. For you since you have a larger lift, you really need drop down brackets in my opinion, or long arms. Because at 6.5 in you only have a few inches left of droop. Where I have about 6.5 inches.

I am flexing more probably because I should have a little more up travel and down travel compared to you? Do you have bump stop extensions? And what is your shock travel in the front?
i don't have bumpsotp extensions in the rear and for the front idk if they are bc i bought it lifted but figuring all the stuff i found wrong with it they are stock. my shocks are 15.5 to 24.5 but i want to go to 16.5 to 28.5 like my rears bc i am looking in the future to get long arms and also i need to charge out my coils rustys sag that will be happening over the winter i hope
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Originally Posted by holycaveman

Plans are to run the Chry in the rear and a 44 up front.

The 38's I am getting will only weight 20 more lbs than my current 32's.
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here is a pic on about a 22 inch rock in front of my house the passenger side is almost tucked all the way about another inch or so before i would of been hitting anything

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