SteveMongr

Since being on this forum for a number of years, there have been countless lifted XJ rollovers. Not wheeling off-camber but driving down the street with no one else on the road!
Why exactly? Is it all user error? I have not seen any stock XJ's rollover unless they were in an actual collision.
And I'm not on the lifted F-150 forums and the like, so I do not have the history of other makes/models to compare too.
It's scary.

SeriousOffroad

Could be any one or combination of the following...
No sway bar
component failure
booze
drugs
stupidity
weather
road conditions
inexperience
cellphone usage
sex

unidentifiedbomb

And even the sway bar isn't the main reason. Mostly the poor driving habits around corners cause it.

Rogue4x4

FIFY Frank...listed in order of likelihood, LOL

helmut

[QUOTE=unidentifiedbomb;2997543]And even the sway bar isn't the main reason. Mostly the poor driving habits around corners cause it.[/QUOT

Most of the rigs with no sway bar wouldn't end up on their roof had the sway bar been attached. The lack of sway bar is not the cause of the crash, the sway bar is there to help the truck after the poor driving habits have been applied.

LAF1269

If I had to guess, I would say that many would probably be a combination of inexperienced driver with a lifted vehicle, and poor quality/improperly installed/or improperly adjusted components. Basically an inexperienced driver, overdriving their abilities, in a vehicle that they are not experienced with.

Fred/N0AZZ

I think this would cover 90+% of the accidents being young inexperienced drivers and poorly built XJ's.

As far as front sway bars they have always been the first thing to go on my street legal race cars (unsprang weight) the worst kind and first to go. I drove these cars on the street also and at very fast speeds over 145 mph in the 1/4 mi. on drag radials with a 3 1/2" wide front tire. They were quite capable of being driven up to 100 mi. or so on 2 lane roads with curves as long as you were thoughtful of what you were driving.

With age comes a little more common knowledge and experience, it makers me sick every time I see young people killed in stupid auto accidents.

unidentifiedbomb

The only person I know to have flipped an XJ blamed his sway bars being off. I then found out he flipped three others and goes over 50 on hilly, windy, poor view farm roads where even a stock jeep would be iffy going over 40.

helmut

My point exactly. No matter what you blame it on, the sway bar would have helped. Who knows maybe it would have helped enough to not roll over. Again having no swaybar doesn't cause rollovers, but it sure makes it harder to roll an xj with one.

helmut

I see how drag cars would need no sway bar.

unidentifiedbomb

I can't tell if you are for or against driving sway barless. Cheap white body shocks are not good with no sway bars and from what I've been told long arms add body roll, not sure about height. I'm only at 4" and has very little body roll with my suspension and shocks.

helmut

He he. Sorry man. Yes I am definitely for driving on the street with front sway bar attached. But i am also for letting people do what they want, as long as they dont make up excuses if something goes wrong afterwards. For 100 $ disconnects its way stupid to be ditching the sway bar. But I also agree that most of the time you end up on your roof because you are not driving the way you are suppose to in a lifted rig. Sway bars do minimize that risk. This way if I ever end up on my roof there will be no debate if it was because of the sway bar or not.

unidentifiedbomb

Ok I understand now haha. I still have my links, just got fed up with the slow connects to get them back on. But I do believe that it is arguable many who roll, sway bars may not have helped at all.

helmut

Yes but on many they would have. I like mine attached. And it feels way better in turns. I'm not saying I would roll my jeep with them disconnected, but someone might roll one. I'm vague I know. But its just so easy to have it on. Maybe if I lived somewhere where I get to wheel everyday I would feel difrently about this since it would be a pain in the behind to disconnect them.

Rogue4x4

I roll sans sway bars. But I don't drive like a d-bag either. I know what my jeep does and doesn't do, and drive it accordingly. Let's face it: 95% of rollovers are operator error.