please change my mind.
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please change my mind.
so idk why
but lately ive had this strange affinity for yjs and tjs over xjs.
and this is after having had 6 xjs
6th one being my baby that ive dumped a good amount of money into.
but now im seriously considering the possibility of a trade or sale for the purchase of a yj or tj..
now what id like to know is what you guys think as far as the capabilities of both in all fields including mudding, trail wheelin, normal day to day driving, and rock crawling. and anything else too ha ( this is with the idea of it having a 4.5 in long arm lift and 33-35s {what i currently have on my xj} )
and id also like to know some of the key differences between the three xj vs yj vs tj.
and if someone could explain the different models within yj and tj? im sorta cunfused on the matter.
any help or pointing in the right direction is greatly appreciated.
but lately ive had this strange affinity for yjs and tjs over xjs.
and this is after having had 6 xjs
6th one being my baby that ive dumped a good amount of money into.
but now im seriously considering the possibility of a trade or sale for the purchase of a yj or tj..
now what id like to know is what you guys think as far as the capabilities of both in all fields including mudding, trail wheelin, normal day to day driving, and rock crawling. and anything else too ha ( this is with the idea of it having a 4.5 in long arm lift and 33-35s {what i currently have on my xj} )
and id also like to know some of the key differences between the three xj vs yj vs tj.
and if someone could explain the different models within yj and tj? im sorta cunfused on the matter.
any help or pointing in the right direction is greatly appreciated.
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Well for one YJs are leaves on all four corners, TJs are coiled. A lot of people give leafs a bad rap that they don't flex well, but when done right they cam be just as good as coils and much simpler. That being said, YJs are not gonna ride as well on the road, especially when lifted with cheap springs or the lift springs get old. YJs also were carbed if you opt for a six cylinder up until 1990. Besides that, I would stay away from early 89's and older since they came with the junk peugot tranny.
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Well for one YJs are leaves on all four corners, TJs are coiled. A lot of people give leafs a bad rap that they don't flex well, but when done right they cam be just as good as coils and much simpler. That being said, YJs are not gonna ride as well on the road, especially when lifted with cheap springs or the lift springs get old. YJs also were carbed if you opt for a six cylinder up until 1990. Besides that, I would stay away from early 89's and older since they came with the junk peugot tranny.
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The TJ is a nice platform. I test drove many when I was looking into getting a Jeep. The deciding factor for me was ultimately the cargo area and the price difference.
IMHO lifted Wranglers are seen everywhere and it is difficult to be unique. You don't see many XJ and ZJ built. Done right I believe the XJ looks better. Also security... especially rag tops. At least a thief has to work a little and make noise to get into my XJ. On the wrangler the hood latches on the side. Good for trail, bad for urban environment. "where did my battery go?"
Yeah I know you can get locking latches for the hood and lock boxes for the cargo area. But still. More money to spend on something that is standard for XJ.
My advice would be to drive one first.
IMHO lifted Wranglers are seen everywhere and it is difficult to be unique. You don't see many XJ and ZJ built. Done right I believe the XJ looks better. Also security... especially rag tops. At least a thief has to work a little and make noise to get into my XJ. On the wrangler the hood latches on the side. Good for trail, bad for urban environment. "where did my battery go?"
Yeah I know you can get locking latches for the hood and lock boxes for the cargo area. But still. More money to spend on something that is standard for XJ.
My advice would be to drive one first.
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Advantage.
Do this with a XJ. You will be chopping it or shopping for a new body.
This guy has rolled this twice since I've been wheeling with him. It's fun to watch if you like making the gang cheer lol
Do this with a XJ. You will be chopping it or shopping for a new body.
This guy has rolled this twice since I've been wheeling with him. It's fun to watch if you like making the gang cheer lol
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i had a yj before my cherokee and i hated it after a while. it road like **** on 33s had no power (4 cylinder). i love my xj, its on the 33's that i had on my yj and my cherokee rides like a dream compared to my yj. In my opinion i wouldn't do it. cherokee's are the **** and everyone has lifted wranglers, not a lot of people have lifted cherokees lol
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Cherokee:
Good
- better cargo/storage (more space, covered up)
- 4 speed auto (if you don't want a 5-speed) with the 4.0 instead of a 3 speed ('97-02 TJ's)
- longer wheel base, therefore, better on-road ride and more interior room
- unibody (keeps the weight down)
Bad
- unibody (easier to twist up)
TJ:
Good
- soft top is great for summer driving
- hard top available
- coil springs on all 4 corners
- better tire clearance
- body on frame (strength)
- 6 speed manual option ('04+)
- Rubicon edition ('03-06)
Bad
- Easy to get into (theft) w/ a soft top
- choppy ride
- only a 3 speed auto with the 4.0 (years '97-02)
YJ:
Good
- Tire clearance
- easy to lift (leaf packs all around)
- soft top (hard top available)
- body on frame
- Renegade edition ('91-94)
Bad
- leaf packs all around (real choppy ride)
- carbed motors (87-90)
- 3 speed auto ('87-95), Peugout 5 speed ('87-90) w/ the 4.2/4.0
Each has strengths and weaknesses, but I think you'll tire of the YJ/TJ and wish for another XJ if you do switch over. IMO, keep the XJ.
Good
- better cargo/storage (more space, covered up)
- 4 speed auto (if you don't want a 5-speed) with the 4.0 instead of a 3 speed ('97-02 TJ's)
- longer wheel base, therefore, better on-road ride and more interior room
- unibody (keeps the weight down)
Bad
- unibody (easier to twist up)
TJ:
Good
- soft top is great for summer driving
- hard top available
- coil springs on all 4 corners
- better tire clearance
- body on frame (strength)
- 6 speed manual option ('04+)
- Rubicon edition ('03-06)
Bad
- Easy to get into (theft) w/ a soft top
- choppy ride
- only a 3 speed auto with the 4.0 (years '97-02)
YJ:
Good
- Tire clearance
- easy to lift (leaf packs all around)
- soft top (hard top available)
- body on frame
- Renegade edition ('91-94)
Bad
- leaf packs all around (real choppy ride)
- carbed motors (87-90)
- 3 speed auto ('87-95), Peugout 5 speed ('87-90) w/ the 4.2/4.0
Each has strengths and weaknesses, but I think you'll tire of the YJ/TJ and wish for another XJ if you do switch over. IMO, keep the XJ.
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I don't know why but wranglers are priced as though there's hidden treasure inside. A tj is double the price of a comparable xj, if not more.
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Originally Posted by razor02097
Nuff said...
I was in this boat for awhile. I narrowed it down to TJ vs XJ (I didnt want a yj suspension). So this was my deciding factors
1. TJs must be made with solid gold bolts or something. Cuz the price is almost doubled
2. XJ cargo space. This was big, because I love camping and hunting. Hard to keep stuff ( not to mention out of the rain) in a TJ.
3. "Wrangler this wrangler that. Omg look at my lifted wrangler. " just to many people have one. And I feel like some wrangler owners have the lost jeep thing. Lifted XJs have such a smaller community. I see somebody park a lifted Cherokee and we can instantly start talking and carrying on.
Just my two cents
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Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Cherokee:
Good
- better cargo/storage (more space, covered up)
- 4 speed auto (if you don't want a 5-speed) with the 4.0 instead of a 3 speed ('97-02 TJ's)
- longer wheel base, therefore, better on-road ride and more interior room
- unibody (keeps the weight down)
Bad
- unibody (easier to twist up)
TJ:
Good
- soft top is great for summer driving
- hard top available
- coil springs on all 4 corners
- better tire clearance
- body on frame (strength)
- 6 speed manual option ('04+)
- Rubicon edition ('03-06)
Bad
- Easy to get into (theft) w/ a soft top
- choppy ride
- only a 3 speed auto with the 4.0 (years '97-02)
YJ:
Good
- Tire clearance
- easy to lift (leaf packs all around)
- soft top (hard top available)
- body on frame
- Renegade edition ('91-94)
Bad
- leaf packs all around (real choppy ride)
- carbed motors (87-90)
- 3 speed auto ('87-95), Peugout 5 speed ('87-90) w/ the 4.2/4.0
Each has strengths and weaknesses, but I think you'll tire of the YJ/TJ and wish for another XJ if you do switch over. IMO, keep the XJ.
Good
- better cargo/storage (more space, covered up)
- 4 speed auto (if you don't want a 5-speed) with the 4.0 instead of a 3 speed ('97-02 TJ's)
- longer wheel base, therefore, better on-road ride and more interior room
- unibody (keeps the weight down)
Bad
- unibody (easier to twist up)
TJ:
Good
- soft top is great for summer driving
- hard top available
- coil springs on all 4 corners
- better tire clearance
- body on frame (strength)
- 6 speed manual option ('04+)
- Rubicon edition ('03-06)
Bad
- Easy to get into (theft) w/ a soft top
- choppy ride
- only a 3 speed auto with the 4.0 (years '97-02)
YJ:
Good
- Tire clearance
- easy to lift (leaf packs all around)
- soft top (hard top available)
- body on frame
- Renegade edition ('91-94)
Bad
- leaf packs all around (real choppy ride)
- carbed motors (87-90)
- 3 speed auto ('87-95), Peugout 5 speed ('87-90) w/ the 4.2/4.0
Each has strengths and weaknesses, but I think you'll tire of the YJ/TJ and wish for another XJ if you do switch over. IMO, keep the XJ.
exactly the post i was hoping someone would put up
thankyou
thanks to all others for there opinions as well
the same things were going thru my mind about the fact that yj and tjs are a lot more common and xjs can be more unique alot easier
plus the extra cargo room
and the fact that your inside on those dusty trail roads is all just pluses along the way.
so thank you guys i think ive decided ill just keep my xj. and work on making it better and better