Off Road Lights from Wallmart/Pep Boys
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Off Road Lights from Wallmart/Pep Boys
Are the cheap (25-30 bucks) navigators you can buy at Walmart or Pep Boys any good? How are they compared to the KC Daylighters or the such? Money is tight but I don't want to get lights that don't serve no purpose or illuminate anything. Thanks for the feedback.
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Originally Posted by Shanejo
Are the cheap (25-30 bucks) navigators you can buy at Walmart or Pep Boys any good? How are they compared to the KC Daylighters or the such? Money is tight but I don't want to get lights that don't serve no purpose or illuminate anything. Thanks for the feedback.
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go to o reillys they have some there for 29.99 that are nice my uncle has them on his golf cart and at night on the road cars flash there bights at us bc they think it is a car then pass and slam on the breaks to see wtf we are driving in lol
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I did search but didn't get a clear answer but yes I am talking about the bajas along with other ones sold at Oreileys ect.
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I did search but didn't get a clear answer but yes I am talking about the bajas along with other ones sold at Oreileys ect.
08-01-2012, 10:52 PM
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In a word, no.
Yes they cost less but the materials, reflector design, and over all quality are not even close.
Yes they are cheaper, but they aren't even close to quality light from KC.
If you can afford to go buy a set of KC's and compare feature for feature to set of wally world or HF lights you'll see what I mean.
Yes they cost less but the materials, reflector design, and over all quality are not even close.
Yes they are cheaper, but they aren't even close to quality light from KC.
If you can afford to go buy a set of KC's and compare feature for feature to set of wally world or HF lights you'll see what I mean.
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I don't know about these "navigators", but I have the 100w Pilot off-road looking driving lights mounted on my bumper. Ever since I upgraded to the headlight wiring kit(keeping the same sealed beam headlamps). There's no need. The cut off up front even went away, because they throw out more light.
Maybe not in this thread, but most of the cheap "off-road" lights people mention are actually just fog lights or driving lights. Just read the box instead of looking at the picture.
Maybe not in this thread, but most of the cheap "off-road" lights people mention are actually just fog lights or driving lights. Just read the box instead of looking at the picture.
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I'm going to quote myself here because I just replied to a similar question in another thread.
To expand on the previous reply:
Fog lights are designed for wide angle /short distance light dispersion. They are sold in "white" or "amber" varieties, which white being more common these days, although the amber are actually better in many respects when you are actually in real fog. However, they are used less for fog and more for general lighting, and their wide dispersion pattern helps eliminate "hot spots", or intense but small circles of light. The wide pattern works better for slower vehicle movement in tight quarters, such as when rock crawling or any kind of hill or trail climbing. They light up more of what is to the sides of your vehicle instead of just focusing on what is directly in front.
Driving lights, have a narrower, more focused beam that has a longer "throw" or ability to light objects at a greater distance. They are best used when you need additional lighting while traveling at normal road speeds. When aimed properly, the driving lights' narrow pattern will not blind oncoming traffic like fogs can, and will reach far enough out to help you see objects in the road (debris, deer, dogs, stalled cars, people, etc.) with enough time to safely stop.
Beware of cheap lights from Walmart, Harbor Freight, PepBoys, Autozone, etc. Many of these use the terms "fog light" and "driving light" interchangeably without much real difference in light pattern. The typical 3" x 5" rectangular lights are notorious for this. A good brand (ProComp, Hella, KC, PIAA, etc) will actually use specific reflectors and lenses to achieve a proper dispersion pattern, and they'll have their lights labeled accordingly. Please note that it is ABSOLUTLEY NOT necessary to drop $150 a pair to get good lighting. My ProComp fogs were $20 each and are well built with a proper light pattern. I can't tell any difference between the light quality (or much in the way of truly relevent build quality) of my $20 each ProComps and my boss's $85 each PIAA's. Even he can't see a difference, which pisses him off now that he's spent the money!
Fog lights are designed for wide angle /short distance light dispersion. They are sold in "white" or "amber" varieties, which white being more common these days, although the amber are actually better in many respects when you are actually in real fog. However, they are used less for fog and more for general lighting, and their wide dispersion pattern helps eliminate "hot spots", or intense but small circles of light. The wide pattern works better for slower vehicle movement in tight quarters, such as when rock crawling or any kind of hill or trail climbing. They light up more of what is to the sides of your vehicle instead of just focusing on what is directly in front.
Driving lights, have a narrower, more focused beam that has a longer "throw" or ability to light objects at a greater distance. They are best used when you need additional lighting while traveling at normal road speeds. When aimed properly, the driving lights' narrow pattern will not blind oncoming traffic like fogs can, and will reach far enough out to help you see objects in the road (debris, deer, dogs, stalled cars, people, etc.) with enough time to safely stop.
Beware of cheap lights from Walmart, Harbor Freight, PepBoys, Autozone, etc. Many of these use the terms "fog light" and "driving light" interchangeably without much real difference in light pattern. The typical 3" x 5" rectangular lights are notorious for this. A good brand (ProComp, Hella, KC, PIAA, etc) will actually use specific reflectors and lenses to achieve a proper dispersion pattern, and they'll have their lights labeled accordingly. Please note that it is ABSOLUTLEY NOT necessary to drop $150 a pair to get good lighting. My ProComp fogs were $20 each and are well built with a proper light pattern. I can't tell any difference between the light quality (or much in the way of truly relevent build quality) of my $20 each ProComps and my boss's $85 each PIAA's. Even he can't see a difference, which pisses him off now that he's spent the money!
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