Had one of these as a rental a lil while back & can def say they are really nice! Cant say i'd be taking the 2WD Version they gave me offroad though lol! My Wife was fallin in Love with it though! Think it'd be pretty sick with 33s on It!

 

Sounds like they totally tenderized the ol' ZJ for its current incarnation. My bro-in-law bought a 2011 Grand, haven't gotten a good look at it but first glance definitely looks more like a kid/grocery hauler SUV/minivan...

 

I love how you little boys think your POS Cherokee is the best of the best. When are y'all gonna face the fact that it was born as a stationwagon?


I've seen that pic before & I don't think it proves the GC as a sissy. It made it thru the Rubicon with relatively little body damage - pretty much stock. I'd say that's pretty darn impressive for a "minivan".

 

This is what happened when Four Wheeler tried one from Jeep. They were going up a hill and the t-case sheared a sprocket tooth and the chain broke. "Trail Rated" huh.

 

I don't think anyone is on this thread saying their Cherokee is the best of the best. What they're talking about is how the majority of new 4x4's are weak excuses for vehicles. Once upon a time Jeep meant off road, not "kid hauler." New trucks have the same fate, nothing like a lifted crew cab that can't haul a sheet of plywood home, but looks awesome parked in front of your office.

 

Baja Claws are about the worst tire possible for snow. My friend has them on his truck and if it snows, he doesn't go anywhere. Its funny watching a huge lifted truck on 38s get stuck in 6" of snow.

 

Sounds like its time for him to change tires then, lol

 

Oh I'm sorry ... I guess I must have misunderstood this v then, huh?

 

People like what they like. I don't see anything wrong with the XJ. It's a great entry vehicle into off roading and can be built to do some serious damage. Plus... I don't know if you noticed, but you're on a Cherokee forum.

 

I'm not a hater & I know perfectly well where I am. um ... have you seen my post count or my XJ? I kinda like 'em too. But I'm realistic. Hundreds of $$ hard work & sweat have gone into it to make it what it is today.

 

Uh yeah, last time I checked I could read. I'm sure there are a lot of folks on here who have only owned 1-3 vehicles and so in their mind maybe XJ > all, is true. I've owned around 60+ and I can say, every vehicle has its pros and cons. It doesn't make something a POS, it makes it a fact of life. Calling people "little boys" and saying "POS Cherokees" is completely different than saying something has it's limitations (which all vehicles have) and to be realistic.

 

Yes they are station wagons and then later on were classified as SUVs. No shame in saying I drive one. And unlike these credit card cowboys with lifted vehicles that never go off-road, I built mine myself and am not afraid to use it or get dirty. So saddle up!

 

there are 2 ZJs in my club and at least one of us knocks that stupid rear bumper cover loose/off every time. I see they still have that problem, LOL.

 

Personally, I really like the new Grand Cherokee.

-BUT-

THIS is a Station Wagon:


THIS is a Jeep:



If Jeep was building a soccer mom station wagon, they wouldn't have sacrificed ride quality and control to put straight axles under it...

 

They all had solid axles until very recently, so ...

empty pockets, you can carry on the argument alone. I've said my piece, I stand by it & I'm moving on.