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Old Oct 2, 2011 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by redmuck
thats what i need to do with mine. what about outdoor carpet? cut to fit.
I'm afraid the outdoor carpet may be too hot and melt dunno I could be wrong
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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 03:08 PM
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So I have been watching this thread for a few months now trying to find the time to do this to my jeep. It has the musty smell, and the passenger side front seats carpet is always wet! Im planning on taking up the carpet this Friday, but was wondering if anyone had a write up on this or if anyone had the details on removing the center console on a 97 cherokee? I have no issues trying to figure it out, but any write up would only make things easier.

Oh and here is a pick of what I plan on using. Will this spray on liner work?
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Old Mar 25, 2012 | 10:30 PM
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i think the first job i am gonna do to my jeep is bedline the interior. i plan on keeping the little carpet matts that came with the jeep and putting that over the
bed liner when im done but i will get rid of the normal carpet because it is dirty. are there any write-ups one pulling the carpet? because that would be really helpful. also, what liner should i use? i will probably go with a roll-on instead of spray, but would some companies have better liner than others?
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Old Mar 29, 2012 | 02:48 PM
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I am planning to rip out all the carpet and do the interior in my jeep in some sort of bed liner. Im leaning more towards the roll-on kind just because it seems more cost effective and easier with the materials available to me.
One question though...

Can you paint on cloth with the bedliner?

I have a 4dr 98 XJ, and when I lay the seats down I would like it to be like a truck bed. I want to paint the back of the back seat with liner, so that when I lay it down I have a continous lined solid surface.

After I get the interior done and that back seat I am wanting to cut black diamond plate to outline the back of the back seat, floor boards, and back cargo area. Lemme know what you think. I love new ideas.

Which is better roll-on herculiner or roll-on dupicolor bedliner? I think you can get both of these at like an advanced auto
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 05:10 PM
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In my previous life I was a tinknocker (sheetmetal mechanic) by trade, I grew impartial to tekscrews and had easy access to much sheetmetal.

By time I figured out my junk had a leaky doorseal it had been detrimental to the floor and the rust had it's way w/it. This was 3 years ago I patched it the best way I could, a layer of 18 ga Stainless sheet on the ext. surface with the floor sandwiched between some epoxy and 20 ga galvanized for the int. surface, a whole helping of tekscrews.

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While tackling my rusting rockers (see below) I discovered rust developing beyond the floor patch. So I took care of one issue at a time with the rockers being first.

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With winter approaching it was time to do the floor. Over 2 months the rust had developed into a 3-4" hole. With the majority of the hole being under the seat rail. Once I removed the rest of the carpet, that I hadn't removed when I did the first patch job, I found the existing carpet had wicked water and developed superficial rust on the whole driverside of the XJ.

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I posed a question on another forum as to which Im a member as to how they're dampening mat acts on the ext. surface and people responded w/positive findings I decided to give it a shot. Around the same time Second Skin, http://secondskinaudio.com/store.php?category=119 , just had released a new product with a total thickness of 60 mils, with 10 mils being sheet and the rest being self adhering butyl rubber. At about a 1/3 thicker aluminum sheet layer than Damplifier, I figured it was about as ideal as what I could for what I was looking to do.

Once receiving the Alpha Damp http://secondskinaudio.com/products/AlphaDamp.php#tab5 I went about to installing it. If I wanted the mat to stick a fairly clean surface is needed, so I figured now would be a good time to paint/treat the surface woth some rust treatment type of paint.

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ss sheet underneath

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So once that dried I placed the Alpha Damp at my feet. I once again sandwiched the floor w/a layer on the int. and another on the ext.. On the ext. I overlapped the Alpha about 6" unto the next piece to assure sufficient coverage. On the int. I patched the swiss cheese area and the parts of the floor that would see more traffic w/the thicker mat and Reqular damp everywhere else on the floor.

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I don't have any pics of underneath but once I get some drier wheather, or a couple free hours, I have 3/4 of the supplied material of U-pol Raptor that I used to do my rockers with, I'm going to spray underneath covering the Alpha Damp and hopefully protect it from the dang road salt this POS state coats the road with. I'll post up some more pics at that point.

Worse comes to worse I'll just cover the floor w/some bent plate, 14 or 16 ga, that goes from the rocker to the unibody ~9". But I'll see how this holds out for this winter. All in all it took ~5 hrs to do above, when I coat underneath with Raptor liner I'm also going to spray at my feet inside and see how that holds up to the DD "abuse".

I'm happy with the results and am anxious to install the rest of the damp I have in the cargo area, doors, and roof and am anticipating favorable results in road noise reduction/dring comfort. Keep in mind my A$$ was exposed to the road but with just what I did allowed me to be able to hear my radio at 24on the highway down to 16.

Well tell me what you guys think.
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 05:12 PM
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So I went nutz w/the bedliner. Used 2 full bottles of Raptor. Did it in the evening so luckily I have one more bottle I intend on coating the driverside floor again, ext. HEAVY and maybe another coat on the int.. I was able to get the rockers, F&R bumpers, int. floors and door jambs. I'm happy w/the results, time will tell how it'll hold up on the floors. Oh well enough of me blabbin on to the pics....


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Back seats

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You can definately tell the Raptor has faded over the 2+ years but I didn't see it till this AM and it's only noticeble when new stuff is applied.....

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The bottoms of the doorrs had some surface rust developing so I hit em w/some 150 gr wiped em down and Raptored em.......

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Rust was developing on the rear bumper I figured why not, if ya do one why not the other, so just like the jambs hit em w/some abrasive wiped them down and went to town.

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So what is the consensus? How long are you guys predicting till I have to mess with it again?


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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 05:17 PM
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7 months later I've only had 2 spots fail to adhere.


1. At the driver side feet, it didn't fail immediatly there and looking at it I'm just going to cut the loose bedliner off put down another layer of the blak damp and spray it again over it all, likely it would have adhered more permanently had I sprayed the silver Alpha Damp with some self etching primer.




2. another spot where the I bedlined over the silver SS and didn't prepare/scuff the surface correcly.

Everywhere that I applied the bedliner to the black Second Skin has not failed, the paint/coating they put on the SS provides a decent surface for the bedliner to adhere correctly.
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 05:59 PM
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You should get some adhesion promoter and then spray the end caps and fender flairs with the bed liner, REMOVE the fender flairs, you will find rust! Fix it spray there with bed liner and put the flairs back on after you spray them! It'll look better if you ask me!
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 06:12 PM
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1 $110 kit did all that you see above, prep is the key to a good results, the first time I did my rockers the prep was 90% of the work. When I reaplied the bedliner, 2 years later, there was little fading and no prep was needed. 4 months later you can't even notice the difference between new/old. You want a 2 part componet bedliner for optimum results. http://www.tptools.com/p/2600,233_U-...Liner-Kit.html

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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 07:39 PM
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It just always bugs me when I see the faded end caps it bugs me! Looks good though!
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ToasterOnWheels
So I have been watching this thread for a few months now trying to find the time to do this to my jeep. It has the musty smell, and the passenger side front seats carpet is always wet! Im planning on taking up the carpet this Friday, but was wondering if anyone had a write up on this or if anyone had the details on removing the center console on a 97 cherokee? I have no issues trying to figure it out, but any write up would only make things easier.

Oh and here is a pick of what I plan on using. Will this spray on liner work?
Attachment 95629
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that is junk.

use more expensive stuff lol

my friend used that and it was terrible.
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Old Mar 30, 2012 | 07:56 PM
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Omg! I tried to use the bed armor bed liner! And it was drippy as **** and I shook the crap out of that can! But I've been using the 9.99 per can stuff from crappy tire, I think it's the ez liner brand and it sprays way better!
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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by DaveVmax

that is junk.

use more expensive stuff lol

my friend used that and it was terrible.
I was warned before and returned that junk. How about Herculiner?
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Old Mar 31, 2012 | 08:44 AM
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I cut out and patched all of my rust.
Can I just lay down self etching primer.
Then roll ontop of that with hurculiner with Kevlar ?
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Old Apr 2, 2012 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by UsmclovesXJ
I cut out and patched all of my rust.
Can I just lay down self etching primer.
Then roll ontop of that with hurculiner with Kevlar ?
Yes,

How did you patch your floor? Your going to wanna make sure your done F'n w/your floor, ie. you want to be sure the rust isn't gonna come back, before you spray/roll down the bedliner. Check out Monstaliner it's made in the USA .
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