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Old Jul 20, 2011 | 01:44 PM
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Yep, that's right. From the first time I got behind the wheel I HATED the design of the pedals.

My wide feet just weren't made for the close nature of my 87 and its 3 pedals. I would move my foot to use the clutch for shifting, and WHAM I would get jerked forward as my foot would BARELY catch the brake pedal.

This had never happened to me in any vehicle. I started to worry I wouldn't be able to wear boots while driving. It was so annoying I considered modifying the setup to space things out a bit.



However, that all changed while I was on my way to work the other day.

I was late and in a hurry, so I was pushing the limits of the lifted XJ, ALL WHILE STAYING WELL WITHIN THE LEGAL SPEED LIMITS AND SUCH.

Anyway, My background is in auto-x, so I'm more used to race style driving than off road style...without thinking I made a heel-toe down shift.

AND IT WAS AWESOME.

I never figured I would need to in my truck, but holy crap this could be a fun trick when out on the trails!
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 02:29 PM
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Man, autocross, that's cool. I've always wanted to try it. What did you drive?
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 02:47 PM
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1993 Eclipse GSX.

I think I can heel toe shift better in.the XJ though. Lmao
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 02:50 PM
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maybe im just slow but what exactly is a heel-toe downshift? ive heard it used before but i have no idea what it means
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 02:55 PM
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Basically your working 3 pedals with two feet.

In my case I was running the clutch with my left foot, running both gas and brake at the same time with my right.

I was at higher RPMs, and didn't wanna force my truck into the lower gear with out RPM matching. I wanted to keep using the brakes, so I had to blip the throttle while still keeping the brake pedal pressed.
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ooo okay that makes sense thanks
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Fair warning, though, this is not something to practice on the road. And be very careful as you can easily mis-shift and potentially break something if you don't know what your doing.
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Gee oh Dee
1993 Eclipse GSX.

I think I can heel toe shift better in.the XJ though. Lmao
Were you any good? Be honest.
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 03:18 PM
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Too good for my own good.

The car was too much for me and my maturity level at the time. And I built it.
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How long ago was it? And maybe you've had enough learnin' to try again? I know it sounds a little dumb, but I've always wanted to build my '74 VW Beetle for autocross.
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Originally Posted by xj wheeler
How long ago was it? And maybe you've had enough learnin' to try again? I know it sounds a little dumb, but I've always wanted to build my '74 VW Beetle for autocross.
The car was sold a little over 5 years ago. And believe me, I want another go. I'm just a bit too deep into the XJ right now, and my vehicle space is limited.

A beetle would be interesting.
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When you do get back to it, what are you going to go with (vehicle)?
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 03:59 PM
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i was skeptical when i first got her, but since i got to know her there wasent a time i remember that i wasen't in love with her!
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I have to be really careful shifting my XJ.

In big trucks, we never use the clutch, except to take off. It's a habit I catch myself doing all the time in my XJ. It's actually pretty easy for me to float the gears in the XJ without grinding them, but I don't know if it was really made to do it. If I knew for certain that I wasn't hurting anything, I doubt I'd ever use the clutch in the XJ, once I got it rolling. I've always heard, however, that you're not supposed to float the gears in automotive transmissions.

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Originally Posted by Paddletrucker
I have to be really careful shifting my XJ.

In big trucks, we never use the clutch, except to take off. It's a habit I catch myself doing all the time in my XJ. It's actually pretty easy to float the gears in the XJ without grinding them for me, but I don't know if it was really made to do it. If I knew for certain that I wasn't hurting anything, I doubt I'd ever use the clutch in the XJ, once I got it rolling. I've always heard, however, that you're not supposed to float the gears in automotive transmissions.
I think your correct. Eats up syncros.
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