I Hate Torx Bolts!!!!
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Year: 1988
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Torx heads were developed because they allowed for more applied torque over a conventional hex head or hex socket head, and more reliable placement for automated manufacturing.
They were NOT developed for the convenience of the mechanic!
However, they may be readily replaced by the DIY-er - the only real catch is you have to positively identify the thread (they answer to the same standard 60* Unified profile, but the same set of wrench sizes answer to both SAE and ISO threads, and there is no distinguishing mark between SAE/UNF and SAE/UNC...)
They were NOT developed for the convenience of the mechanic!
However, they may be readily replaced by the DIY-er - the only real catch is you have to positively identify the thread (they answer to the same standard 60* Unified profile, but the same set of wrench sizes answer to both SAE and ISO threads, and there is no distinguishing mark between SAE/UNF and SAE/UNC...)
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From: York, PA
Year: 1998
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That's for DAMN sure! Thanks for the info. So much torque that my brand new socket busted. Grrr! That was after torching it too. I've got a long battle ahead to remove my seatbelt bolts, and the front ones are slightly rusted. I might say F it and just start grinding and drilling them out lol
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From: Raleigh, N.C.
Year: 1986
Engine: 2.8 V6
I hate them as well.
Can you get a dremel tool in there to cut a slot in them for a flathead screwdriver? I have done that numerous times on all different kinds of stripped fasteners.
your options pretty much are:
-Slot for flathead
-extractor bit (may or may not work)
-grind head completely off
you MIGHT could double nut the bolt inside the door and use them to break the bolts loose, and then probably back them out with the torx bit that "fits"
are you sure you were using the proper size bit? I have never stripped out a torx bolt, numerous cheap torx bits, but never the bolt itself as they are pretty strong by design, which if I am not mistaken is why they are used so much in the automotive industry.
Can you get a dremel tool in there to cut a slot in them for a flathead screwdriver? I have done that numerous times on all different kinds of stripped fasteners.
your options pretty much are:
-Slot for flathead
-extractor bit (may or may not work)
-grind head completely off
you MIGHT could double nut the bolt inside the door and use them to break the bolts loose, and then probably back them out with the torx bit that "fits"
are you sure you were using the proper size bit? I have never stripped out a torx bolt, numerous cheap torx bits, but never the bolt itself as they are pretty strong by design, which if I am not mistaken is why they are used so much in the automotive industry.
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Year: 1998
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I haven't had time to battle them over the weekend, but I'll be attempting the slotted trick on the door hopefully this evening, assuming I can squeeze my dremel in there to get at them. As rusty as my front seatbelt bolts are, I think it'd be in my best interested just to grind them out and not even try! 
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