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Old Oct 26, 2013 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Cherokee_Laredo
But I heard once the car was traded in, you were not allowed to buy it or anything off it. Some JY around me had some C4C vehicles on the windshield.
Salvage yards were allowed to sell anything they wanted to off the vehicle except for the engine and transmission. However, since it was a large number of vehicles in a short period of time many went straight to the shredder since some yards didn't have the space or personnel to store or properly dismantle the vehicles.
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Old Oct 27, 2013 | 03:07 PM
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c4c was a scam to try and get gas guzzler/ poluting cars off the road. you got 3k trade in for any car towards a new car that got 10mpg better then the car you were trading in. Cars were sent to junkyards but they were only givin a day or so to pull parts off the vehicle before they had to send it to scrap.
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Old Apr 4, 2015 | 06:02 PM
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I noticed that around my area anyway I haven't seen any 84-96 1st gen Cherokees on the road in awail now, I'm mostly seeing rusted 97-01 Cherokees on the road now. Does anyone think the XJ maybe has around 10 more years before its 2nd gen is almost gone? BTW I never seen an SJ for how many years probably since 2002, They quit making them in I think 1992.
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Old Apr 4, 2015 | 06:04 PM
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I see more 96 and older in my area. And they aren't scarce
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Old Apr 4, 2015 | 06:50 PM
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The more likely reason for C4C is to replace untrackable vehicles with ones that have tracking devices in them.

I am not paranoid. Big Bro just wants to watch your every move.
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Old Apr 4, 2015 | 06:51 PM
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Old Apr 4, 2015 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Cherokee_Laredo
I noticed that around my area anyway I haven't seen any 84-96 1st gen Cherokees on the road in awail now, I'm mostly seeing rusted 97-01 Cherokees on the road now. Does anyone think the XJ maybe has around 10 more years before its 2nd gen is almost gone? BTW I never seen an SJ for how many years probably since 2002, They quit making them in I think 1992.
I still see a lot of 1st gens around here, though 2nd gens do tend to be more common, Renix XJs are pretty rare though I probably only see one every few weeks while I usually see several "Chrysler era" (91-01) XJs a day. Most aren't too rusty, I've seen some with rusted rockers (generally 1st gens) but for the most part they seem to hold up better than many vehicles of the same age (I can't remember the last time I saw a 1st gen Explorer that wasn't a complete rust bucket. I see an SJ every now and then, but they definitely aren't common, though they were built in much lower numbers than XJs, didn't have as good of rust-proofing, and had a more maintenance intensive drive-train (carburetor, etc.). What I do see less of though is XJs for sale that aren't either beat up or priced very high, it seems the people that have good ones are hanging onto them and the ones that do come up for sale are going for a lot more than a few years ago (supply and demand I guess).
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Old Apr 4, 2015 | 09:09 PM
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Old Apr 4, 2015 | 11:03 PM
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Below is something I recently wrote to someone complaining about not being able to find any clean, low-mile XJ's anymore and blaming the CARS program for killing so many XJ's....

C4C did a lot, but it's over. It did its damage, and it's done. Thoughtless mods, abuse, and neglect continue day after day. While I still see a lot on the road, it's getting pretty rare that I see one that isnt't a rotten/cut-up/bang-up piece of junk. As far as I'm concerned, I'm more upset about C4C leading to the destruction of some very rare vehicles. Technically it's the fault of the idiots who C4C'd them and not the program's fault, but still. http://wot.motortrend.com/crushing-t...kers-5458.html http://www.autoblog.com/2009/09/24/s...served-better/

I feel that your attitude is dangerous. Laying blame primarily on something like C4C can lead to dodging our responsibility to keep the vehicle we love alive. Your attitude of "there are still plenty; don't worry about it," isn't going to work forever. I'd rather not see that day that XJ's like mine are hard to find. I will say that complaining about not finding a low-mile XJ is absurd. It's been 14+ years; it's stupid to complain that there aren't enough people who bought them just to let them sit in a garage accumulating little to no mileage all this time. Who really cares about finding a low-mileage XJ anyway? These things are about as "mileage-proof" as can be.

P.S. There were more than just hundreds of thousands of XJ's built--millions.
Number of XJ's built in given year:
1984 - 93,326
1985 - 120,328
1986 - 107,225
1987 - 139,295
1988 - 187,136
1989 - 207,216
1990 - 151,230
1991 - 151,578
1992 - 137,826
1993 - 144,961
1994 - 123,391
1995 - 120,234
1996 - 286,463
1997 - 258,958
1998 - 182,845
1999 - 186,116
2000 - 165,590
2001 - 120,454

Total = 2,884,172
Number of MJ's built in given year:
1985 - 29,245
1986 - 33,386
1987 - 43,070
1988 - 43,718
1989 - 25,311
1990 - 9,576
1991 - 5,188
1992 - 952

Total = 161,201
P.P.S. 26,996 XJ's were destroyed by C4C. That's less than 1% of all XJ's ever made.
448 MJ's. One fourth to one third of one percent (161,201).
22,852 ZJ's. 1.8% of all ZJ's ever made (1,251,473).
6,944 WJ's. Less than one half of one percent (1,428,095).
2,423 YJ's. Less than one half of one percent (557,412) (I've also seen 632,231).
1,075 TJ's. About one fifth of one percent (603,303).

Source: http://www.nhtsa.gov/Laws+&+Regulati...ta+and+Reports

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Old Apr 4, 2015 | 11:07 PM
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There are still a ton of them on the road in Hawaii.
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Old Apr 5, 2015 | 01:34 AM
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I see more older pre 97 XJs here in El Paso and it's hard to find anything with rust here. I was at the yard in March and found a letter in an XJ that put the total loss date in mid December. There wasn't even rust on the areas where the metal was mangled and bare.

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Old Apr 5, 2015 | 11:54 AM
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We have a bunch up here.... see a few everyday including some lifted ones. They are definitely going away slowly.

So are those numbers you guys post up for XJs produced each year world wide? Because pretty sure the C4C was only in the USA and the XJ was produced everywhere. It is irrelevant, 26,000 is still a lot. Even if it was only 1% of those ever made, It was a big chunk of those that were left. Salt has probably destroyed more than anything else. Followed by selling to the JY when something goes wrong. Then there is wrecks/deer etc.

I bet a very small percentage of fallen apart due to Offroad people modifying them/destroying them. I personally have had 6 now. Destroyed various parts on all of them (engines/motors/axles), still have 2, parted out/scrapped one, sold all the rest in better shape then when I got them- I still see my first one on the road sometimes.

Hell, more were probably destroyed my natural disasters than by us "haphazard" modifiers. There is less of every single 86-2001 car on the road... that is what happens. I still see more XJs than most everything else. Maybe up here old Subarus... But thats about the only competition.

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Old Apr 6, 2015 | 02:38 AM
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4.0 just didn't want to quit, even after throwing metal all around.

Ill be honest this is kinda hard to watch. The crunching noises sound terrible.
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Old Apr 6, 2015 | 08:28 AM
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AMC era XJs are getting extremely hard to find. Makes me sad.
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Old Apr 6, 2015 | 10:11 AM
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4.0: Straight up runs without oil! Hollaaaaa!!!!
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