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Old 12-09-2013, 10:45 AM
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Here's a post from that forum, this KL is only TWO WEEKS old!

It was too good to be true. My first American car purchase in 40 years and it was seemingly flawless for the first week. The slight knocking sound seemed to disappear and all was well with the world….until this morning. While driving out of the garage to go the bank the ParkSense failed. Ok I can do without it for awhile. After the business at the bank was finished I started the car and the 4WD Unavailable light came on. Uh OH! But the car still functioned so as I began to back out the parking brake failure light came on. So the relaxed morning turned into a long trip to the dealer. On the freeway my previously praised ACC failed and said it was unavailable. The TrailHawk drove just fine. But only after 350 sedate miles we have the following:


  • ParkSense -- Service Required
  • 4WD Unavailable -- Service Required
  • Electronic Parking Brake – Service Required
Cruise Control Unavailable -- Service Required

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I now have 300 miles on my Trailhawk. I also have the 4WD unavailable message as well as the electronic parking brake - service required.
In addition I now have the check engine light on.

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epic fail. that right there is why I won't buy any new fancy junk.
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also...I think the domain name of this site is a travesty.
http://jeepcherokeeclub.com/
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I've had my XJ 6 years, check engine light has NEVER came on.
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Originally Posted by PocketsEmpty
also...I think the domain name of this site is a travesty.
http://jeepcherokeeclub.com/
Ha, funny how the ad banner shows a pic of it's REAR end......I wonder why?

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The rear is no prettier than the front. I'd rather look at a corn-riddled turd, seriously.
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Wonder what the REAL MPG's are as quoted by the actual owners?

"Just got back from a trip this weekend. Trailhawk. All Highway miles. 89 octane. 70-75mph. Using cruise control. Average MPG = 21.2"

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"So far 21-22 mpg average with this type of mixed driving. I have a V6 Trailhawk."

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"my manual calc for the first 2 tanks was about 1~1.5 MPG less than the display."

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"My Trailhawk V6 has about 600 miles on it now and it is averaging just under 21 mpg"

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"3.2 V6 just did my 3rd fill-up (4 total counting the dealers) im at 560 miles averaging 16.2mpg w/manual calc. mixed highway/city."

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"I have had my Limited II 3.2 for just about two weeks now. I have put just about 90 miles on it. I am still on my first tank of gas provided by the dealer and I am getting 13.2"

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Originally Posted by 95Cherokee
I've had my XJ 6 years, check engine light has NEVER came on.
I guess your bulb must be broken. Lol
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LOL, that's funny. And all the KL supporters cry about fuel efficiency when comparing to the 4.0. My 23 year old Mazda gets about 24 to the gallon city, 28 highway. What does that tell you about improved fuel efficiency of modern cars (in general)?
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Those engines are brand new and tight, MPG's will improve with age......but still.
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What's so bad about the new Wranglers? Why wouldn't someone just buy one of those? You can get a pretty sweet one for 30G
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Originally Posted by kgm
What's so bad about the new Wranglers? Why wouldn't someone just buy one of those? You can get a pretty sweet one for 30G
Nothing. They're actually pretty damn good but they have a falsified stigma against them in regards to safety that crossovers will never adopt. Afterall:

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I'll admit Electronic Parking Brake seems cool, activate parking brake with a push of a button, never needs adjusting.

No big parking brake handle taking up space on your console.
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Originally Posted by 95Cherokee
I'll admit Electronic Parking Brake seems cool, activate parking brake with a push of a button, never needs adjusting.

No big parking brake handle taking up space on your console.
I have this in my 2014 fusion. My first thought was something else to break. At least this one has a real spin on oil filter and not the messy cartridge deal that my 08 had. What ever happened to the foot activated parking brake?
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Originally Posted by carbuff
I have this in my 2014 fusion. My first thought was something else to break. At least this one has a real spin on oil filter and not the messy cartridge deal that my 08 had. What ever happened to the foot activated parking brake?
And foot activated high-beam? Now there's a mod I've been considering for the XJ! lol


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