Cherokee Chat General non-tech Cherokee chat
XJ/MJ/ZJ/WJ
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DashLynx

FYI for anyone looking at buying a 2012+ Grand Cherokee

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-10-2012, 11:41 AM
  #1  
☠ CF Sheriff ☠
Thread Starter
 
dukie564's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Aberdeen, MD
Posts: 15,197
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO I-6, 703 Injectors, Brown Dog Super Engine Mounts
Default FYI for anyone looking at buying a 2012+ Grand Cherokee

http://jalopnik.com/5924482/jeep-gra...asive-maneuver

evidently they SUCK at evasive maneuvers - 40mph is not that fast



VIDEO: http://www.teknikensvarld.se/jeepmoosetest/

Last edited by dukie564; 07-10-2012 at 11:47 AM.
Old 07-10-2012, 11:45 AM
  #2  
Member
 
88_cherokee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Trujillo Alto Puerto Rico
Posts: 224
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 88
Model: Cherokee
Engine: I6
Default

as do all jeeps
Old 07-10-2012, 11:47 AM
  #3  
CF Veteran
 
Gee oh Dee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 21,168
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Year: 1987
Engine: Check
Default

That rear rim kissed pavement!
Old 07-10-2012, 11:48 AM
  #4  
☠ CF Sheriff ☠
Thread Starter
 
dukie564's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Aberdeen, MD
Posts: 15,197
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO I-6, 703 Injectors, Brown Dog Super Engine Mounts
Default

added the video

and other jeeps have not failed that test - they've been doing that test on vehicles since the 1970s
Old 07-10-2012, 11:50 AM
  #5  
CF Veteran
 
Gee oh Dee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Milwaukee, WI
Posts: 21,168
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Year: 1987
Engine: Check
Default

I've been on a steeper sideways incline...
Old 07-10-2012, 02:49 PM
  #6  
CF Veteran
 
93XJLI's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: LI, NY
Posts: 3,671
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0, bolt ons for days...
Default

Swerving is stupid in any vehicle that tall. Unless you know you're gonna die by hitting whatever is in front of you, plant your foot through the floor and trust the brakes.

Poor stability control programming and payload at capacity caused this. I doubt an empty jeep with just a driver would teeter. And older keeps didn't fail bc the tires used on them didn't offer anywhere near the grip of the wk2s standard rubber.
Old 07-10-2012, 02:51 PM
  #7  
☠ CF Sheriff ☠
Thread Starter
 
dukie564's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Aberdeen, MD
Posts: 15,197
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO I-6, 703 Injectors, Brown Dog Super Engine Mounts
Default

pretty sure that's why they call it the "moose test"
Old 07-10-2012, 11:02 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
JRT1393's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 506
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 2001
Default

That guy in the passenger seat is so relaxed, he has nothing to live for haha
Old 07-10-2012, 11:11 PM
  #9  
Member
 
jdf2010's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: chantilly va
Posts: 118
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 IL6
Default

I don't know I work at jeep and I've taken some pretty fast turns in grand cherokees
Old 07-11-2012, 02:30 AM
  #10  
CF Veteran
 
mrfajita's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Fort Collins, CO
Posts: 3,405
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO
Default

I swerved to avoid a deer last week at close to 50mph. I don't have sway bars. Body pitched about 20 degrees, thats about it
Old 07-11-2012, 08:57 AM
  #11  
CF Veteran
 
no rdplz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Virginia Beach by way of Michigan
Posts: 5,482
Likes: 0
Received 24 Likes on 24 Posts
Default

Interesting that after multiple tries they couldn't reproduce the original results. If the same procedures were done on the vehicle with the same weight set-up then the results should be close if not the same. That's why you should always do multiple tests with something like this, so you can see what the true results are. One instance of tipping is not grounds for saying the vehicle is unsafe. heck, if you do it right, you can tip an Aston Martin with a strong enough evasive maneuver. Guess that means they're unsafe too.
Old 07-11-2012, 10:16 AM
  #12  
Member
 
MD XJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Baltimore
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

OP, did you get this from TCL?
Old 07-11-2012, 10:17 AM
  #13  
☠ CF Sheriff ☠
Thread Starter
 
dukie564's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Aberdeen, MD
Posts: 15,197
Received 16 Likes on 12 Posts
Year: 1995
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L HO I-6, 703 Injectors, Brown Dog Super Engine Mounts
Default

I have no idea what TCL is. Saw it on Japolink
Old 07-11-2012, 10:24 AM
  #14  
Member
 
MD XJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Baltimore
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by dukie564
I have no idea what TCL is. Saw it on Japolink
Oh, gotcha. TCL = The Car Lounge, a sub-forum of VWVortex.

There was a thread on there about the results of this test.
Old 07-11-2012, 04:59 PM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
basegrinder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Cali
Posts: 588
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Year: 1993
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 5.2
Default

Rollover Warning

Jeep Wrangler / Jeep Wrangler Owner's Manual / Introduction / Rollover Warning


Utility vehicles have a significantly higher rollover rate than other types of vehicles. This vehicle has a higher ground clearance and a higher center of gravity than many passenger cars. It is capable of performing better in a wide variety of off-road applications. Driven in an unsafe manner, all vehicles can go out of control. Because of the higher center of gravity and the narrower track, if this vehicle is out of control it may roll over when some other vehicles may not.
Do not attempt sharp turns, abrupt maneuvers, or other unsafe driving actions that can cause loss of vehicle control. Failure to operate this vehicle safely may result in a collision, rollover of the vehicle, and severe or fatal injury. Drive carefully.


Quick Reply: FYI for anyone looking at buying a 2012+ Grand Cherokee



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:27 PM.