Dream XJ bugout rig ideas?
05-20-2016, 07:46 AM
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Water for coffee and cooking is in one gallon food grade plastic jug. Fits perfect in cargo area next to fuel filler hump, kept in place by false floor. Potable water is not stored but filled daily or day of. Downside is that the plastic can split open and they only hold one gallon per jug.
05-20-2016, 08:28 PM
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My XJ is slowly going to head toward being both a DD and a SHTF bugmobile. So let's tap the proverbial brain trust! From custom storage, to what you feel are must-have items in your rig... What would be included in your XJ for a 72hr bugout? Jeep itself; 1) Roofrack w/ spare, tools, recovery gear, camo net. 2) Side or tailgate mounts for gascans. 3) CB radio, dual battery setup, cutoff switch for all external lighting. Stuff! 1) Energy bars, jerky, coffee, and water for 3days. 2) Toiletry bag w/ tissue, toothbrush, wetwipes, deodorant, etc. 3) Firearm trio, plenty of ammo for each. 4) Ax, shovel, hatchet, tent, bedroll, camp stove. 5) Road and topographic maps, playing cards, a good book. 6) Extra socks & drawers. Plenty I'm sure I'm forgetting, but that's a good start!
05-20-2016, 10:07 PM
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I have have spent way more time researching EMP's then I'd like to admit. I've read several test's done by the US, Russia & Universities. I've read congressional studies, books by experts, browsed survival forums, talked to electrical engineers, etc...
1st off, EMP doesn't just blindly knock out all electronics. Without getting too technical, different electronics are more susceptible/ resistant to the 3 different wave lengths of radiation that are emitted. It's true that older vehicles with less electronics stand a better chance of being usable but there have been tests done in which most vehicles were still operable or only needed a fuse changed. Many of the cars simply went haywire & shut off. They were easily re-started afterwards & drove fine with maybe a check engine light or something minor.
At the end of the day think of prepping for an EMP the same way you would for a lightning strike. Lightening will travel along powerlines & knockout power to adjacent building etc. You want to provide a ground for an emp just like lightening. EMP radio waves will do the same thing as lightening & travel along wires or antennas. Small electronics like cell phones & radios often survive while a TV that's hooked to the cable co-ax in the wall may get toasted.
The good news is that all modern vehicles are built with some degree of grounding & fuses to prevent major damage to essential parts. Of course you can always improve on these mechanisms by adding shielding, keeping spare fuses & spare PCM, or simply parking in a protected structure like a parking garage where the radio waves/ radiation can't directly penetrate.
You could spend $2000+ trying to re-wire & do all kinds of stuff for EMP protection but ultimately most vehicles will still be operable even after a strike so I wouldn't stress too much about this & just focus on making a really great overland style Jeep which is basically a Bugout vehicle that the whole family can enjoy. I hope that helps?
1st off, EMP doesn't just blindly knock out all electronics. Without getting too technical, different electronics are more susceptible/ resistant to the 3 different wave lengths of radiation that are emitted. It's true that older vehicles with less electronics stand a better chance of being usable but there have been tests done in which most vehicles were still operable or only needed a fuse changed. Many of the cars simply went haywire & shut off. They were easily re-started afterwards & drove fine with maybe a check engine light or something minor.
At the end of the day think of prepping for an EMP the same way you would for a lightning strike. Lightening will travel along powerlines & knockout power to adjacent building etc. You want to provide a ground for an emp just like lightening. EMP radio waves will do the same thing as lightening & travel along wires or antennas. Small electronics like cell phones & radios often survive while a TV that's hooked to the cable co-ax in the wall may get toasted.
The good news is that all modern vehicles are built with some degree of grounding & fuses to prevent major damage to essential parts. Of course you can always improve on these mechanisms by adding shielding, keeping spare fuses & spare PCM, or simply parking in a protected structure like a parking garage where the radio waves/ radiation can't directly penetrate.
You could spend $2000+ trying to re-wire & do all kinds of stuff for EMP protection but ultimately most vehicles will still be operable even after a strike so I wouldn't stress too much about this & just focus on making a really great overland style Jeep which is basically a Bugout vehicle that the whole family can enjoy. I hope that helps?
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05-21-2016, 04:18 PM
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One thing to think about is how noticeable is the vehicle and how much of a target driving it will make you. Sometimes having a "sleeper" bug out rig may be best especially during times of social unrest or collapse.
05-21-2016, 05:36 PM
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Outside of that, I'm not sure what else could be done to tone her down, especially once she's loaded up with a roofrack.
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