Do you think I bent my frame?
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So towards the end of my last trip to Moab, I was attempting to crawl a ledge that was just a bit more than I could chew. I would get my front wheels up on the first ledge, then there was another ledge both axles had to clear at the same time. I gassed it to try to bounce up it. It was so steep I just couldn't make it over and I would drop back on the bumper pretty hard. I attempted it a few times. The last attempt broke off my D tab--that's how hard I was hitting.

A couple hours later at the gas station, I noticed I tweaked the body. The bumper had pushed against the body and these dimples resulted.



I also have a slight alignment problem now. I don't recall hitting anything too hard. Perhaps crossings Golden Crack could have torqued out the alignment? I mean I was steering pretty dang hard against this:

I just hope my frame isn't jacked. Any opinions?

A couple hours later at the gas station, I noticed I tweaked the body. The bumper had pushed against the body and these dimples resulted.



I also have a slight alignment problem now. I don't recall hitting anything too hard. Perhaps crossings Golden Crack could have torqued out the alignment? I mean I was steering pretty dang hard against this:

I just hope my frame isn't jacked. Any opinions?
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So towards the end of my last trip to Moab, I was attempting to crawl a ledge that was just a bit more than I could chew. I would get my front wheels up on the first ledge, then there was another ledge both axles had to clear at the same time. I gassed it to try to bounce up it. It was so steep I just couldn't make it over and I would drop back on the bumper pretty hard. I attempted it a few times. The last attempt broke off my D tab--that's how hard I was hitting.
A couple hours later at the gas station, I noticed I tweaked the body. The bumper had pushed against the body and these dimples resulted.
I also have a slight alignment problem now. I don't recall hitting anything too hard. Perhaps crossings Golden Crack could have torqued out the alignment? I mean I was steering pretty dang hard against this:
I just hope my frame isn't jacked. Any opinions?
A couple hours later at the gas station, I noticed I tweaked the body. The bumper had pushed against the body and these dimples resulted.
I also have a slight alignment problem now. I don't recall hitting anything too hard. Perhaps crossings Golden Crack could have torqued out the alignment? I mean I was steering pretty dang hard against this:
I just hope my frame isn't jacked. Any opinions?
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I think you're right. Being all tied as a uni body, it's probably tweaked a little. I'll continue to wheel it hard, for sure. I already do. But I also like a good looking rig.
Regarding the d-tab, I couldn't disagree more. Everyone gets so caught up on having a bumper with tabs solid with the frame. I'll weld the tab back on and if I need a tug, I'll use it. Had it not broken off, my damage to the frame could have been worse. The bumpers purpose is to take the abuse, not pass it on to the frame.
Regarding the d-tab, I couldn't disagree more. Everyone gets so caught up on having a bumper with tabs solid with the frame. I'll weld the tab back on and if I need a tug, I'll use it. Had it not broken off, my damage to the frame could have been worse. The bumpers purpose is to take the abuse, not pass it on to the frame.
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i wasnt implying that the tab should be welded to the frame. mine arent either.
when the tab broke off it shouldve ripped some of the metal off with it. that clean of a break looks like it had minimal penetration to the bumper imo judging from what can be seen in the picture.
when the tab broke off it shouldve ripped some of the metal off with it. that clean of a break looks like it had minimal penetration to the bumper imo judging from what can be seen in the picture.
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i wasnt implying that the tab should be welded to the frame. mine arent either.
when the tab broke off it shouldve ripped some of the metal off with it. that clean of a break looks like it had minimal penetration to the bumper imo judging from what can be seen in the picture.
when the tab broke off it shouldve ripped some of the metal off with it. that clean of a break looks like it had minimal penetration to the bumper imo judging from what can be seen in the picture.
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Yeah that d-ring mount should not have come off like that, the weld should be stronger than the surrounding metal, and should have torn or really bent the bumper. If you insist on using it PLEASE don't use it with people standing nearby.
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If you do use it I feel bad for the guys windshield itll knock out when it breaks. Who made the bumper?
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As for mounting to the factory location... idk if I have gotten lucky but my bumper just grabs the eight factory bolts and has been problem free so I'm sure his will be fine for a while at least.
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You have been lucky to say the least. You dont have any issues with the shackles hitting the bolt for one of the brackets?
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those are pretty common areas to dimple on a XJ that gets used well. you have frame stiffies? get some. you probably just tweaked up your front end and knocked the alignment out, make sure everything is good and tight and re-align it.



