**** these guys!! http://jalopnik.com/six-ways-the-201...e-xj-461239031

 

Yeah I read that and just laughed really.

 

Junk just junk, well ugly junk too.

 

Tee hee... it comes with it's OWN GROCERY BAG.

 

Where's the moist towelettes and tampon despensors gonna go.

 

They have fallen and bumped there damn heads.

 

all the butthurt is probably over the XJ's LOWER ground clearance. lulz

 

Well, right here, of course:



Within easy reach of the driver.

 

Damn. The Jalopnik commenters already beat me to it lol.

> 1. "The Original XJ Wasn't A Truck"

And neither is the 2014 Uglykee... are we missing something here? And what Original XJ? There's no "XJ 2.0"

> 2. It's More Powerful

So there's a higher peak torque and horsepower. When is it available? The I6 can rip your face off just above idle.

> 3. It's Dimensionally Better
> 4. It's Taller

Okay... so the belly covered in full of low-hanging **** just begging to get destroyed by a rock is slightly higher up than the XJ's differentials... wow that's fantastic. Some of the angles are nicer - wait a second - is this base to base or UpCountry to Trailhawk? Something smells fishy...

> 5. Its Crawl Ratio Is Nearly Double

Probably the only valid point in that whole article. The whole Rubicon program with 4:1 transfer case was a later deal. Though with the cost difference between an XJ and the 2014 thing, you could just BUY a lower crawl ratio and still save...

> 6. It's More Fuel Efficient

Uh what? The XJs with the 2.5L TD got 32 MPG easily. Did they pull 20 MPG off of Yahoo Answers? Lots of people driving stock XJs are able to achieve 28 MPG with the I6. Even the EPA Estimate is higher! That said, it does indeed have a yet-to-proven modern engine that I was reading about developing a tick after 8000 KM. Sounds fabulous. Let us know when it can stand up to the types of abuse most neglectful owners put it through - nevermind actual Jeep activities.

 

Did I just read l6 and 28+mpg in the same sentence? Lol

I do agree with everything else though

 

Let it go haha holy crap, don't buy it!

 

Yup. 34 PSI in 225/75R15s on a 5 speed, turning about 1900-2000 RPM down the highway, windows closed, no AC. Not even drafting that much! Look up what other manual drivers are getting highway mileage.

Let's say you have a colored ball. It's the best ball in the world. You love it so much, you'd do anything to have another ball JUST LIKE THAT ONE. Let's call it Larry.

Now let's say that the company that manufactured Larry comes out with a block. Yup, a block. They call it Larry, too! They say it's rounder than Larry. That it's smoother, and bounces better! Well that's impossible - Larry is a ball! ***** are rounder than squares! This new plastic block ain't got nothin' on your rubber ball. But some butthurt fanboys who can't separate facts from opinion think it's the best Larry ever - despite it not actually being a Larry Bouncy Ball.

It isn't a matter of opinion at this point. It's about people being full of ****. I guess Jalopnik isn't an actual news agency, though, so they can just make stuff up without worrying about pesky stuff like 'journalistic integrity'. You can like it all you want, but it ain't a Cherokee. It isn't even a Jeep.

 

You and niche group of people love Larry, but what if the rest of the world think Larry sucks and want a block? If you are the company manufacturing Larry do you sell to a very small group or sell to a much larger market that likes blocks?

I understand you feel betrayed and I agree, we all should feel that way. This is no contemporay XJ. Imagine how full size Cherokee owners felt when their ladder frame full size was replaced by a coil sprung, unibody, compact stationwagon. Never talked to someone who had that experience, but I would think they felt betrayed. From Jeep's perspective they are "revolutionizing" the midsize market again (4L, locker, 9 speed). With that perspective, "Cherokee" is the perfect name. I fully realize that this Jeep will never be some extreme offroader, but the market Jeep is gearing this towards will use it fine and have no need for anything more. The people who need something more, won't buy it. An XJ type Cherokee in Jeep's current lineup is too similar to the 4dr Wrangler to justify. Who knows what advancements in technology will allow innovative people, like yourself, to modify a independent suspension vehicle like this. We don't see now because we don't know what we don't know. My grandmother never thought of an ipad when her brothers were making the first tv in their neighborhood from a kit either.

 

Very true. So why would you call the new block a Larry, then?

 

That third quote is definitely true. I've hit a telephone pole and another truck with my xj head on and she's still running strong and made it through with only body damage. These things look like they would crumple like a tin can