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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 10:20 PM
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Are my eyes messing with me or am i really seeing progress pics?
Looking good!
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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 10:54 PM
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Looks great! keep up the good work
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Old Sep 9, 2010 | 11:52 PM
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ok so 227 post read and im hooked, cant wait to see you pull this off. also the garage door spring mounted in the tube might be a good back up plan. that is what we use on our roller trailers at work to assist in the lifting of about a 175lb 3/8 inch thick steel loading ramps. they wont take up a lot of space mounted to the inside rail on each side of your roof rack. and we only use one per ramp, they are about 8 dollars a piece at home depot.
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Old Sep 11, 2010 | 11:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Geck_87Laredo
Are my eyes messing with me or am i really seeing progress pics?
Looking good!
I think you're just seeing things....

And thanks for the comments.
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 12:46 AM
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Not sure if this has been addressed, but isn't the tire carrier and the hatch going to lift on different angles making the tire carrier "slide" down the hatch to compensate? Or am I crazy?
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 03:00 AM
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This is an awesome idea. One thing i don't like about the swing out tire carriers is it's one more thing you have to move to get to the back(sometimes i'm lazy ) However isn't the hatch going to be pretty heavy with the tire on it? It would make me think it'll make the struts that hold the hatch open go out sooner.
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 07:19 AM
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Ritter, it's looking good! But just looking at your sketch here:

I would guess the tire would be mounted about 8 times further away from the hinge than your gas strut is. That means the gas strut has to be able to pull 8 times the entire tire carriers weight. Generally you want that ratio the other way around. I'm not saying it won't work, just keep it in mind....

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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 10:23 AM
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come on guys READ. he is working on a DIFFERENT opening system to either assist the shocks or to replace them. he hasnt been working on this design just to reply on them factory shocks which is made just to hold the hatch.
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 05:58 PM
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What ever happened?
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by unknowndja
Sorry if I am repeating something someone else has said, but I thought i would add two cents. My solution would be to put a roller on the back of the tire carrier frame contacting the lift gate. (Maybe even rollerblade wheels for those short on funds) Then maybe adding the stronger struts to lift gate and then the tire carrier would go up with the rear lift gate and remain a certain distance off of it.

Best of luck fellas!
I just went through and read every post in this thread from the begining. After his first post about this idea I was hooked and the above idea was pretty much what I was thinking. The hardest part about the OPs idea is positioning the struts in such a way they dont get in the way of the hatch but can still lift the tire. The factory has already figured out the best geometry to lift the gate with minimal force. The only thing I would suggest you change for the idea above and the current project the OP is doing: your tube holding your tire needs to go all the way down to the bumper with a pin or stop. I don't know where you wheel or who you wheel with but the first time you back into a tree or one of your friends taps your rear end with their bumper it's going to push that tire through your hatch.

Just my .02. LOVE the idea. If I wasn't so set on a diaper style carrier I would be doing this.
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Old Aug 25, 2012 | 10:52 PM
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PS. Was impressed with your MS Paint work. Can see you are already getting comfortable with Autocad. You have an engineering mind and arent afraid to think outside the box. Keep it up and I'm sure you will complete even greater projects in time.
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