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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by motorcharge
The mudflaps make it look horrible imo. Do you have to have mudflaps in ID? Otherwise the actual bumper looks awesome.

Agree on the width, but it looks like you could run some thinner tube off them and run them forward for tube flares in the rear.

If you get a file for front mounts I'd definitely be interested. Going back to school here in a couple months and we have a CNC table available for use.
Thanks! Yeah i agree the mudflaps suck, and yes in ID i have got to have mudflaps and fender flares so that the tires are covered. The mudflaps are removable tho so i only put them on if im driving on the interstate.

I could make a CAD file for front mounts.
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Old Nov 21, 2012 | 11:55 PM
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Design is nice but I don't agree with the material choice. Would have gone with HREW or DOM if you do plan on using that hitch for any towing or vehicle recovery. Did you use the stock 8 mounting holes on the rear cross member or extend the mount into the unibody rails?
Schedule 80 pipe is more than strong enough imo. And its quite a bit cheaper. I could build 2 or 3 bumpers for the price difference between pipe and DOM. I have already been winched across a parking lot and not a problem. And the brackets i cut out on the plasma table tie into the original hitch brackets ill post pics tomorrow didnt get to them today.
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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 1990xjnut
Schedule 80 pipe is more than strong enough imo. And its quite a bit cheaper.
It's strong enough to pull something with, but it's hardened steel and it will break under impact and that's the problem with schedule 40/80 pipe.

HREW isn't expensive and for a bumper it's significantly stronger and can take an impact. Obviously it's not as good as DOM but DOM on bumper is overkill imo.
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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 08:33 AM
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yea hrew is 34 bucks for 8' 1.25''x.120wall
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Old Nov 22, 2012 | 09:51 AM
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Next time if there is a next time i might go with hrew. Only rocks will tell how long this bumper holds up.
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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 11:49 AM
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So you've been winched on a flat surface with only pavement resistance? That's not the added resistance of mud or large obstacles. If this is for looks and very light duty towing, fine. If you do plan on recovering another vehicle or getting recovered I would rethink the material. To me, my safety and the safety of those around me is not worth saving a couple dollars. Not trying to break down your fab work, just giving some info for people looking to do the same thing. The strength issue is this, schedule 80 was not made to be used in an automotive project. It's strength is about 30,000 psi. The strength of DOM is about 65,000 psi. Sure it's more money, but it's more than twice it's strength.
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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Lyferxb9s
yea hrew is 34 bucks for 8' 1.25''x.120wall
$31.99 here, just ordered 4 sticks Friday.
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Old Nov 24, 2012 | 01:34 PM
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none of your pics are working for me
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Originally Posted by JerseyJeeper
So you've been winched on a flat surface with only pavement resistance? That's not the added resistance of mud or large obstacles. If this is for looks and very light duty towing, fine. If you do plan on recovering another vehicle or getting recovered I would rethink the material. To me, my safety and the safety of those around me is not worth saving a couple dollars. Not trying to break down your fab work, just giving some info for people looking to do the same thing. The strength issue is this, schedule 80 was not made to be used in an automotive project. It's strength is about 30,000 psi. The strength of DOM is about 65,000 psi. Sure it's more money, but it's more than twice it's strength.
I have personally used pipe to build bumpers, built a prerunner bumper that took on a 14" telephone pole at 55 mph, that pipe bumper arguably saved my life.

I'm not gonna argue that it's as strong as DOM or CroMo tubing, but it is quite strong, especially considering stock bumpers are stamped sheet metal. Your tensile strength numbers don't really apply here, they measure that by stretching the material till it stress fractures. Compressive strength would apply more to a bumper than tensile strength would. Like I said I have personally seen what it can handle in a high speed impact.
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 10:21 PM
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I agree, tensile strength isn't the same as bending resistance...
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Lyferxb9s
yea hrew is 34 bucks for 8' 1.25''x.120wall
that would get you a 20' here
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Old Nov 25, 2012 | 11:49 PM
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Thanks for the people that have givin props. As for jersey jeeper you can post else where and i could care less. I dont think i was asking for your opinion of what i should build my bumper out of. I just posted pics and said what the bumper was made out of. Plenty of bumpers have been built out of pipe and hold up very well to abuse. As stated above ^. My front bumper was built out of pipe and idk how many countless times i have used my winch and been winched from it, guess what it still looks and serves the purpose i built it for.
If you know how to weld and fab stuff then there should be no problem with strength. I know that if a honda pulls out in front of me or decides to rear end me my jeep will be safe and sound. Goodbye honda!

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Old Nov 26, 2012 | 01:41 AM
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You will find that people tend to regurgitate **** they read, without any real knowledge or experience of their own.

A lot of times the material isn't as important as the manner in which it is constructed. A well designed bumper can be made plenty stout out of pipe, especially sch 80. But DOM or CroMo would be better, These are facts not opinions.

All that being said I wouldn't mention the use of Pipe anywhere on the Pirate4x4 forum! And your bumper looks tight Bro!
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Old Nov 26, 2012 | 09:07 PM
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I will not argue that dom and hrew are superior in strength. But im not building a rock buggy or roll cage. I just want my bumpers to withstand Zombies! and weekend wheeling trips
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Originally Posted by 1990xjnut
I will not argue that dom and hrew are superior in strength. But im not building a rock buggy or roll cage. I just want my bumpers to withstand Zombies! and weekend wheeling trips
I believe you are successful then.
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