Herculined the inside of my XJ
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Theres not a big big difference. with the carpet out you can hear the fan more and road noise a bit more. but its nothing unbearable. you can still hear people talking at normal voices and so on. but you will notice a little more noise.
Some people put sound deadening paint down first before the herculiner, but im not sure how well the herculiner will adhere to it in the long run. or how well the rust or metal underneith the sound deadening paint will hold up against moisture .
aside from cab noise there is also some heat on the passenger side. floor boards.
you could always probably buy 1qt of herculiner for 30 bucks you want to touch stuff up. Mines been doing good so far. ive dragged a few things in the back so far and its holding up.
Some people put sound deadening paint down first before the herculiner, but im not sure how well the herculiner will adhere to it in the long run. or how well the rust or metal underneith the sound deadening paint will hold up against moisture .
aside from cab noise there is also some heat on the passenger side. floor boards.
Slugger, its been a while since I last posted here. I did the herucliner job myself, it turned out pretty good aside from me having used somewhat thin of a coat, it is peeling a dime sized area in the trunk where I move my marching instrument case in and out not to mention my trombone. Everywhere else its in't peeling a bit.
you could always probably buy 1qt of herculiner for 30 bucks you want to touch stuff up. Mines been doing good so far. ive dragged a few things in the back so far and its holding up.
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Any of you guys install better drain plugs? I sank my rig and am planning on herculining but I want some easy drain plugs so next time i don't have to bail. Then I can also hose off the interior! hahaha
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Year: 91 xj, 93 xj, 93 zj, 94 zj
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I've been thinking about liner for both the inside and the outside (like that Wrangler earlier on in the thread), doing the fenders and doors up to the upper trim bend on both my DD and my trail rig, and doing the floor of the trail rig as well.
I've seen samples of all sorts of liner, and prefer the duller, flat look like one of the trucks at work (gonna be calling them at some point to see what they used, it's not herc or rhino). My co-worker has since told me his wheeling buddy bought a sprayer for about $150 to do his own and it sounds way cheaper than having the shop do it ($150 for the sprayer, and $30-50 a gallon for the liner vs $500-800 a vehicle). I'm thinking of actually getting the sprayer as I'd have the two vehicles, plus my truck bed (and probibly many other people's beds as well, I'd imagine)
My question is, since I'm going to repaint anyway, what order should I do this in, and what additional prep work might I run into (since I have to deal with the crappy peeling clear coat on both jeeps)? Should I take the whole thing down basically to metal (since I can't be sure I got the clear coat any other way), prime and paint the part that's going to stay paint and just shoot the liner on the metal, or is there a primer? Would it be better to shoot the paint after the liner, or should they overlap? I'm starting from scratch here, and even if I do take the DD to the shop to have it done I still have to figure the paint/liner first question.
I've seen samples of all sorts of liner, and prefer the duller, flat look like one of the trucks at work (gonna be calling them at some point to see what they used, it's not herc or rhino). My co-worker has since told me his wheeling buddy bought a sprayer for about $150 to do his own and it sounds way cheaper than having the shop do it ($150 for the sprayer, and $30-50 a gallon for the liner vs $500-800 a vehicle). I'm thinking of actually getting the sprayer as I'd have the two vehicles, plus my truck bed (and probibly many other people's beds as well, I'd imagine)
My question is, since I'm going to repaint anyway, what order should I do this in, and what additional prep work might I run into (since I have to deal with the crappy peeling clear coat on both jeeps)? Should I take the whole thing down basically to metal (since I can't be sure I got the clear coat any other way), prime and paint the part that's going to stay paint and just shoot the liner on the metal, or is there a primer? Would it be better to shoot the paint after the liner, or should they overlap? I'm starting from scratch here, and even if I do take the DD to the shop to have it done I still have to figure the paint/liner first question.
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When I re-did my interior in the spring, I used screw in Marine plugs. They are a 2-part device: one end gets pushed into the drain hole & I used marine silicone to seal it. The other part is screwed into the first, thereby creating an awesome plug that is easy to remove as needed. I can post pics from home, but I'm at work now & image hosting sites are filtered. I just wish they were a bit longer so I can install them thru the carpet instead of under it.
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I've been thinking about liner for both the inside and the outside (like that Wrangler earlier on in the thread), doing the fenders and doors up to the upper trim bend on both my DD and my trail rig, and doing the floor of the trail rig as well.
I've seen samples of all sorts of liner, and prefer the duller, flat look like one of the trucks at work (gonna be calling them at some point to see what they used, it's not herc or rhino). My co-worker has since told me his wheeling buddy bought a sprayer for about $150 to do his own and it sounds way cheaper than having the shop do it ($150 for the sprayer, and $30-50 a gallon for the liner vs $500-800 a vehicle). I'm thinking of actually getting the sprayer as I'd have the two vehicles, plus my truck bed (and probibly many other people's beds as well, I'd imagine)
My question is, since I'm going to repaint anyway, what order should I do this in, and what additional prep work might I run into (since I have to deal with the crappy peeling clear coat on both jeeps)? Should I take the whole thing down basically to metal (since I can't be sure I got the clear coat any other way), prime and paint the part that's going to stay paint and just shoot the liner on the metal, or is there a primer? Would it be better to shoot the paint after the liner, or should they overlap? I'm starting from scratch here, and even if I do take the DD to the shop to have it done I still have to figure the paint/liner first question.
I've seen samples of all sorts of liner, and prefer the duller, flat look like one of the trucks at work (gonna be calling them at some point to see what they used, it's not herc or rhino). My co-worker has since told me his wheeling buddy bought a sprayer for about $150 to do his own and it sounds way cheaper than having the shop do it ($150 for the sprayer, and $30-50 a gallon for the liner vs $500-800 a vehicle). I'm thinking of actually getting the sprayer as I'd have the two vehicles, plus my truck bed (and probibly many other people's beds as well, I'd imagine)
My question is, since I'm going to repaint anyway, what order should I do this in, and what additional prep work might I run into (since I have to deal with the crappy peeling clear coat on both jeeps)? Should I take the whole thing down basically to metal (since I can't be sure I got the clear coat any other way), prime and paint the part that's going to stay paint and just shoot the liner on the metal, or is there a primer? Would it be better to shoot the paint after the liner, or should they overlap? I'm starting from scratch here, and even if I do take the DD to the shop to have it done I still have to figure the paint/liner first question.
I know with herculiner all you have to do is scuff the surface up and clean up any rust. I would get rid of anything thats peeling though. then just scuff the surface up. Also with herculiner you dont put a primer down. you just put it up the scuffed up metal/ scuffed up paint.
if yours your dd , it would probably be best to do the outside first, so you can still drive it if you had to.
but if you dont need to drive it, I would probably do the inside first, then once its done do the outside.
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The whole unit, partially separated:

Separated & siliconed ready for the 1" hole:

Hole prepped with Marine silicone:

A hole in one ... er ... um ...

Done, just waiting for me to fully screw it in. Watertight sweetness. I love those things.
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Year: 91 xj, 93 xj, 93 zj, 94 zj
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What bed liner do you plan on going with?
I know with herculiner all you have to do is scuff the surface up and clean up any rust. I would get rid of anything thats peeling though. then just scuff the surface up. Also with herculiner you dont put a primer down. you just put it up the scuffed up metal/ scuffed up paint.
if yours your dd , it would probably be best to do the outside first, so you can still drive it if you had to.
but if you dont need to drive it, I would probably do the inside first, then once its done do the outside.
I know with herculiner all you have to do is scuff the surface up and clean up any rust. I would get rid of anything thats peeling though. then just scuff the surface up. Also with herculiner you dont put a primer down. you just put it up the scuffed up metal/ scuffed up paint.
if yours your dd , it would probably be best to do the outside first, so you can still drive it if you had to.
but if you dont need to drive it, I would probably do the inside first, then once its done do the outside.
I'm almost set on doing the upper part of the jeep's paint with a little overspray passed the line the liner will go to, then use the body conture to sand only up to the line before spraying the liner on. New question, what do they use to mask the liner off with to get the nice straight line on the top of bedrails? Its almost like its cut, but I'd think that would scratch the paint. Do they just peel the masking off while it's still wet?
As far as wich first, there's two jeeps, one a daily and one a trail rig. I'm going to practice on the trail rig first, but with the weather as it is I'm wondering if it's all going to be next year befoer I can do it.
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I haven't figured out what the name of the stuff is on our work truck yet, we've been busy. I don't really like the shiny liners, personally, so I'm not going to use Herc, unless they have a flatter finish.
I'm almost set on doing the upper part of the jeep's paint with a little overspray passed the line the liner will go to, then use the body conture to sand only up to the line before spraying the liner on. New question, what do they use to mask the liner off with to get the nice straight line on the top of bedrails? Its almost like its cut, but I'd think that would scratch the paint. Do they just peel the masking off while it's still wet?
As far as wich first, there's two jeeps, one a daily and one a trail rig. I'm going to practice on the trail rig first, but with the weather as it is I'm wondering if it's all going to be next year befoer I can do it.
I'm almost set on doing the upper part of the jeep's paint with a little overspray passed the line the liner will go to, then use the body conture to sand only up to the line before spraying the liner on. New question, what do they use to mask the liner off with to get the nice straight line on the top of bedrails? Its almost like its cut, but I'd think that would scratch the paint. Do they just peel the masking off while it's still wet?
As far as wich first, there's two jeeps, one a daily and one a trail rig. I'm going to practice on the trail rig first, but with the weather as it is I'm wondering if it's all going to be next year befoer I can do it.
Have you ever heard of POR 15? a lot of people used that before. I've never seen it or used it, but i've read it drys as hard as a rock, and its a smooth. protects against rust. they claim it ' stops rust in its tracks ' but its not really bed liner
You just take the masking off before its dry, or else it will be stuck and wont look nice when you tear the tape off.
if you have a a friday night to tear apart the inside of your jeep, then prep the inside the next day, and bedline it on sunday, then let it dry it should only for 3-4 days at max. but when i did my herculiner i let it dry/cure for 2 days.
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Older threads but exactly what I was looking for thanks for thee pics and I will post some as well. I think i'll use a texture gun from harbor freight instead of rollin that on...
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Also, if I could re do it again, I would def make it a lot thicker. I did two coats. Its still holding up well. But I think 3-4 coats would be better.
I recently did a truck cab and I did 4 coats because I wanted it thick, and it definitely looks more thick.
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