Chop that top
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From: Racine, Ohio
Year: 1999
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Sorry guys. I agree its big. But I only have about two inches in front and back of clearance for the winch. And side to side we had to get somewhat creative because the jeep has a shift in the front where its been wrecked and we had to do so offsetting for the bumper to even be centered up with the nose. Maybe later ill design something different that is smaller but for now its gonna have to be.
Sorry guys. I agree its big. But I only have about two inches in front and back of clearance for the winch. And side to side we had to get somewhat creative because the jeep has a shift in the front where its been wrecked and we had to do so offsetting for the bumper to even be centered up with the nose. Maybe later ill design something different that is smaller but for now its gonna have to be.
Just a thought Rich, take and angle the bottom of front plates towards teh body more. That will keep the bumper from hanging down so far and it will give strength to it as the plates will lock in on themselves as you wrap them towards the sides. It's what I did on mine and it saved quite a bit. Also, don't plate the bottom. I know a lot of guys say to, mainly due to strength and not getting hung up on anything, but I can tell you from my own experiences that not plating the bottom has made me happier. It's lighter (by a lot) and it's still incredibly strong (due to angling the plates on themselves). Just a thought. Here's a reference pic of what I'm talking about.
plates are angled in on themselves:

plates are also cut so that the ends "rise" from the center:

to keep strength where it needs to be a main gusset runs down the middle:

Also, don't use such a big piece on the bottom. Do a 4" wide rather than a 6" or 8" wide. better approach angles are always better.
Last edited by no rdplz; Aug 16, 2012 at 07:55 AM.
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Originally Posted by no rdplz
Just a thought Rich, take and angle the bottom of front plates towards teh body more. That will keep the bumper from hanging down so far and it will give strength to it as the plates will lock in on themselves as you wrap them towards the sides. It's what I did on mine and it saved quite a bit. Also, don't plate the bottom. I know a lot of guys say to, mainly due to strength and not getting hung up on anything, but I can tell you from my own experiences that not plating the bottom has made me happier. It's lighter (by a lot) and it's still incredibly strong (due to angling the plates on themselves). Just a thought. Here's a reference pic of what I'm talking about.
plates are angled in on themselves:
plates are also cut so that the ends "rise" from the center:
to keep strength where it needs to be a main gusset runs down the middle:
I actually like that a lot better. I may end up having to take off the bottom like you said. I'll be happy with mine for now and may change it later because I REALLY want to get it on the road right now. Lol. Those are great tips and I'll probably eventually use them. Thank you.
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Hey man the GC is coming along nicley. Looks pretty Bad A$$. I've been skimming through most the pages but came across how you wanted to paint it on page 16. And you said you liked the fighter jet/ Bomber style paint job that was on the Lambo. I also really like that style paint job,.. Here's another pic of that style paint but on a 240. Caint wait to see this thing finished. Keep up the great work man.
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Hey man the GC is coming along nicley. Looks pretty Bad A$$. I've been skimming through most the pages but came across how you wanted to paint it on page 16. And you said you liked the fighter jet/ Bomber style paint job that was on the Lambo. I also really like that style paint job,.. Here's another pic of that style paint but on a 240. Caint wait to see this thing finished. Keep up the great work man.


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No prob man. Just glad I could help. I figured you'd like that pic. I also really like that style paint job and did a lot of searching and that was the Best picture I came across on the net that was done in that style paint. Who ever did it is an Excellent painter. It turned out really good. And what also made it so great for me is that I used to be big into 240's before I bought my jeep. I used to have one until I got into alot of trouble with it,.. Way to many tickets. So I got rid of it and bought my jeep instead. I also printed out that picture and hung it up on my wall as one of my favorites.
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Build it how you like it! That's all that matters
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Rich
I had an existing Warn 8274 winch "the big boy" that I wanted on my Cherokee.
I have it mounted high and tight, 1/8" to the grille, 1/4" of bumper in front of the winch.
In hindsight not high enough !
I had to cut a notch in the bumper for the gear case.

I have since gone back and revised the ends twice, to improve approach angle.

I hate to jump on the bandwagon, but now is the time to revise the design.
See if you can suck it back and up and trim excess from in front of the winch.
Taper the sides back and up.
Do it now or later, but you will end up doing it.
Note all the rock hits on mine.
Nitro
I had an existing Warn 8274 winch "the big boy" that I wanted on my Cherokee.
I have it mounted high and tight, 1/8" to the grille, 1/4" of bumper in front of the winch.
In hindsight not high enough !
I had to cut a notch in the bumper for the gear case.

I have since gone back and revised the ends twice, to improve approach angle.

I hate to jump on the bandwagon, but now is the time to revise the design.
See if you can suck it back and up and trim excess from in front of the winch.
Taper the sides back and up.
Do it now or later, but you will end up doing it.
Note all the rock hits on mine.
Nitro
Last edited by nitro450exp; Aug 16, 2012 at 11:28 AM.


