Weird misfire Issue
04-17-2017, 06:36 PM
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Weird misfire Issue
Hey guys, my buddies 2000 Wj 4.0 has this weird misfire. To start it started with the replacement engine he had put in, since the first start theres no spark in cylinder 6. So we checked the plugs and swapped the coil and nothing then we went to the dealer and got a new Cam and crank sensor still nothing. We checked the grounds and took the ECM and key module out of my WJ just to see by any chance its the Ecm does the same thing... Im stumped... Any opinions would be appreciated. 
04-19-2017, 06:02 AM
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Cylinders #1 and #6 fire simultaneously on the same coil and you changed that. Check plug #6 for a cracked insulator. I got a Champ like that right out of the box! Are you sure it's not a bad injector? Is the injector plug cracked? Was the injector harness damaged in the swap? The injectors are controlled by drivers in the PCM. Make sure you don't have a bent pin in the PCM harness plug.
The injectors are supplied with a constant 12 volts and are grounded thru drivers in the PCM to control fuel. There is a cool tool called a "Noid" light that will show if the injector is firing or not. You might try someplace like Autozone to rent one.
The injectors are supplied with a constant 12 volts and are grounded thru drivers in the PCM to control fuel. There is a cool tool called a "Noid" light that will show if the injector is firing or not. You might try someplace like Autozone to rent one.
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04-19-2017, 03:44 PM
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Cylinders #1 and #6 fire simultaneously on the same coil and you changed that. Check plug #6 for a cracked insulator. I got a Champ like that right out of the box! Are you sure it's not a bad injector? Is the injector plug cracked? Was the injector harness damaged in the swap? The injectors are controlled by drivers in the PCM. Make sure you don't have a bent pin in the PCM harness plug.
The injectors are supplied with a constant 12 volts and are grounded thru drivers in the PCM to control fuel. There is a cool tool called a "Noid" light that will show if the injector is firing or not. You might try someplace like Autozone to rent one.
The injectors are supplied with a constant 12 volts and are grounded thru drivers in the PCM to control fuel. There is a cool tool called a "Noid" light that will show if the injector is firing or not. You might try someplace like Autozone to rent one.
04-19-2017, 06:52 PM
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It's entirely possible the CPS got damaged in the swap. I've talked to transmission shops and they tell me they replace the CPS with every trans change just to be sure.
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OK update, problem solved! We checked everything we could think of to no avail. So we pulled the motor back out to remove all the wiring and start checking everything one thing at a time...again but when we got the motor out and put it to the side I realized the flexplate had a slight bend in it right at one of the holes where the crank sensor sits 
(I tried taking pictures but couldn't really see it in the pic) So we straightened it out got the engine back in and now it runs beautiful! I think the weight of the engine rested on the flexplate for a moment during install. So be careful and take your time. Hope this helps someone.
(I tried taking pictures but couldn't really see it in the pic) So we straightened it out got the engine back in and now it runs beautiful! I think the weight of the engine rested on the flexplate for a moment during install. So be careful and take your time. Hope this helps someone.
05-11-2017, 12:36 PM
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OK update, problem solved! We checked everything we could think of to no avail. So we pulled the motor back out to remove all the wiring and start checking everything one thing at a time...again but when we got the motor out and put it to the side I realized the flexplate had a slight bend in it right at one of the holes where the crank sensor sits
(I tried taking pictures but couldn't really see it in the pic) So we straightened it out got the engine back in and now it runs beautiful! I think the weight of the engine rested on the flexplate for a moment during install. So be careful and take your time. Hope this helps someone.
(I tried taking pictures but couldn't really see it in the pic) So we straightened it out got the engine back in and now it runs beautiful! I think the weight of the engine rested on the flexplate for a moment during install. So be careful and take your time. Hope this helps someone.
