No body can seem to figure this out
can some please tell me what this noise is when i try to start my jeep. its a 2004 limited 4.7l, i replaced the starter about a month ago. it does start, sometimes on the first try and sometimes its take 3-5 trys. the link below is the video of the sound on youtube
Sounds like the flywheel is toasted ! Pull off the inspection cover covering the flywheel and torque converter and turn the engine over by hand and inspect the entire flywheel for missing teeth . Best way to make sure you got the whole thing is to mark your beginning spot with a sharpie or paint marker .
Another thing to do is when it makes that sound make sure key is off etc and turn the engine over by hand a little bit if it starts fine you know you were hitting a bad spot on flywheel . That method will also get you by until you can replace it or atleast get you home .
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Old fart with a wrench
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From: Manlius, east of Syracuse, NY
Year: 2000 XJ Sport & WJ Laredo
Model: Grand Cherokee (WJ)
Engine: 4.0L
Yes, that sound is the starter not engaging the flywheel but spinning. Either the teeth on the flywheel are bad or the starter drive is hanging up. You have a good solid engagement after the flywheel moves off the damaged teeth, so I'm assuming it's the teeth.
Actually, it's not a flywheel, but a thin sheet metal plate called the flexplate that connects the torque converter to the crankshaft.
Actually, it's not a flywheel, but a thin sheet metal plate called the flexplate that connects the torque converter to the crankshaft.
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From: Santa Cruz Ca.
Year: 2000 WJ
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.7
For whatever reason. It sounds like the starter is not engaging with the flexplate. It takes a lot to mess up the teeth on a flywheel. I know a flexplate isn't as tough as a flywheel. I am not sure how easy they are to chip off teeth. How long have you owned it? I had a CJ-7 once that had a dead spot on the flywheel. But it only came around to the starter occasionally. Was it fine and it just started to do this and the first thing you did was change out the starter? Or, is it a recent purchase and you bought it like this? I have replaced a bad starter and installed another one and encountered this, but with a clutch. . The old one was not shimmed, but the new one had to be shimmed to work properly. A little more history may help us sort this out.
Last edited by blueseasons; Jun 9, 2017 at 09:12 PM.
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From: Chico, CA
Year: 1986
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.3L with headers and full 3" exhaust system
This is a fairly common problem that happens to just about every brand. The bendix gear is not sliding out enough to engage the teeth of the flywheel. Typically you can fix this by removing the starter and cleaning the gear and shaft it spirals out on
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From: syracuse ny
Year: 1997
Model: Grand Cherokee (ZJ)
Engine: 4.0, new lifters valve job with new springs and exhaust valves, preload set with shims
Having had to replace brand new starters myself on the xj, my vote is for a bad starter right from the box.



