Stock Grand Cherokee Tech. All ZJ/WJ/WK Non-modified/stock questions go here! ZJ (93-98), WJ (99-04), WK (05+)
All ZJ/WJ/WK specific tech questions asked here!

Brake line fitting sizes are killing me...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-17-2019, 08:49 AM
  #1  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Hatsuwr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Maryland
Posts: 228
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Year: 1996
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default Brake line fitting sizes are killing me...

'96 ZJ w/ rear disc brakes- Here's my best guesses:

Master Cylinder to Combination Valve - DIN/ISO Bubble Flare - one M10 x 1 fitting, one M12 x 1 fitting
Combination Valve From MC - SAE/Double Inverted Flare - one 7/16-24 fitting, one 1/2-20 fitting
Combination Vale to HCU - SAE/Double Inverted Flare - one 3/8-24 fitting, one 1/2-20 fitting
HCU from Combination Valve - DIN/ISO Bubble Flare - one M10x1 fitting, one M12x1 fitting
HCU to Brake Lines - DIN/ISO Bubble Flare - Right M11 x 1.5, Left M12 x 1, Rear M10 x 1
Front Lines to Hoses - SAE/Double Inverted Flare - 3/8-24
Rear Line to Rear Hose - SAE/Double Inverted Flare - 3/8-24 fitting
Rear Lateral Lines - SAE/Double Inverted Flare - 3/8-24 on both ends

Total:
3x M10x1
1x M11 x 1.5
3x M12x1
1x 7/16-24
2x 1/2-20
8x 3/8-24

Hopefully this will be helpful to someone else. Also, let me know if anything seems wrong!

Last edited by Hatsuwr; 02-17-2019 at 11:17 AM.
Old 02-17-2019, 04:14 PM
  #2  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Hatsuwr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Maryland
Posts: 228
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Year: 1996
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default

This all came about because I broke a hard line or three while trying to get the hoses off. Just going to redo all the lines now. After a big internal debate between stainless and copper-nickel tubing, I decided on the
latter latter
.

Got
these these
fittings for inside the engine bay. Think they're brass or steel. Doesn't matter much, since I got
these these
stainless steel ones for all the fittings outside the engine bay.

The only real downside to the copper-nickel is decreased erosion/impact resistance. Chances are though, that anything that takes out these lines would have taken out stainless as well. Still, I got
this this
stainless line protector. I was a bit worried about galvanic corrosion of the lines caused by the protector, but they should only be about 1.5V difference max, so it *should* be fine. I hope.

I also spent way too much money on
this this
flaring tool. I figure I'll be using it several times in the future though, and if I'm flaring tubing, it's almost definitely something where I'm willing to pay a little more for quality.

I plan on straightening the tubing with just a long hole drilled through a length of 2x4. Not perfect, but I don't see anything significant to be gained from a real straightener. Similarly, I'll probably just use a large socket for bending. I'm on the fence about buying a bending tool, but I just don't think I'll get better results by using it in this case.
Old 02-19-2019, 07:03 AM
  #3  
Junior Member
 
frankjc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 47
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

I hear you. I just re used all of the fittings when I replaced my brake lines.
Old 02-19-2019, 11:14 AM
  #4  
Member
Thread Starter
 
Hatsuwr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Maryland
Posts: 228
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Year: 1996
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 I6
Default

A few of mine required... convincing to remove.
Old 02-19-2019, 03:15 PM
  #5  
Newbie
 
Reekor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Model: Grand Cherokee (WJ)
Default

I have the same flaring tool and it's worth it's price. I also have the Eastwood tool https://www.eastwood.com/professiona...ring-tool.html which works great as well but needs a vice.

Last edited by Reekor; 02-19-2019 at 03:20 PM.
Old 02-19-2019, 03:20 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
tinytrax78's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: orrville ohio
Posts: 822
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Year: 1994
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by Hatsuwr
A few of mine required... convincing to remove.
I know what you mean but I just convince them back on again lol
Old 02-26-2019, 07:58 AM
  #7  
CF Veteran
 
97grand4.0's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: syracuse ny
Posts: 2,764
Received 170 Likes on 158 Posts
Year: 1997
Model: Grand Cherokee (ZJ)
Engine: 4.0, new lifters valve job with new springs and exhaust valves, preload set with shims
Default

I just take the old one in and match it up.
Old 02-27-2019, 06:43 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
jon-d's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: AV Kalifornia
Posts: 707
Received 20 Likes on 18 Posts
Year: 1996
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

autozone rents for free the bender and flaring tool BTW.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
WyoCherokee
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
1
01-04-2017 09:34 PM
huntingman2706217
Modified XJ Cherokee Tech
12
01-20-2014 09:04 PM
brucebo
Cherokee Chat
1
07-04-2009 05:20 PM
H2 Recovery
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
1
06-12-2009 02:50 AM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: Brake line fitting sizes are killing me...



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:15 PM.