96 Grand Cherokee Limited 4.0 Help
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Joined: Mar 2009
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From: Tenn. and Mich.
Year: 2004
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.7L V8
With luck it's only the hub bearings. Of course it could be both sides.
After I bought my ZJ, it was making a similar noise. I had it looked at by a friend. (Should have done that first). It had bad hub bearings on both sides, and in the rear D44a axle it had bad pinion bearings, bad carrier bearings, worn/damaged ring & pinion gears, and bad wheel bearings. It was my first 4WD vehicle, so I had no idea what I was looking at, except that it looked to be in mint condition, and ran great. Oh well, I loved, it so I spent the money and had it fixed.
He said the damage was probably caused by a bad pinion seal, and letting the axle run low on fluid. Make sure the fluid is at the level of the fill plug on the diff cover.
After I bought my ZJ, it was making a similar noise. I had it looked at by a friend. (Should have done that first). It had bad hub bearings on both sides, and in the rear D44a axle it had bad pinion bearings, bad carrier bearings, worn/damaged ring & pinion gears, and bad wheel bearings. It was my first 4WD vehicle, so I had no idea what I was looking at, except that it looked to be in mint condition, and ran great. Oh well, I loved, it so I spent the money and had it fixed.
He said the damage was probably caused by a bad pinion seal, and letting the axle run low on fluid. Make sure the fluid is at the level of the fill plug on the diff cover.
I could probably do rear bearings as long as the inner seals are still good. I just don't have the proper tools to pull the outer seals and the bearings and reseat them correctly. Plus, I paid $250 for this thing. I'm most concerned about screwed pinion or gears than anything.
I have someone who plays with these things coming by today to road test it and see if he can tell me what's going on.
I have someone who plays with these things coming by today to road test it and see if he can tell me what's going on.
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Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 28,068
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From: Tenn. and Mich.
Year: 2004
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.7L V8
I've never messed with rebuilding axles because I didn't know how. I didn't mind paying for the knowledge/experience so it would be done right the first time.
Now engines, that's a different topic.
Now engines, that's a different topic.
That's what's killing me. I can tear that 4.0 apart and put it back together blind folded. And I love that motor. Its a beast and you have to be trying hard to kill it. But when it comes to rears, I have no skills with setting gears and getting the lash correct and all that mess. But I also can't afford to put out the cash to have it professionally rebuilt either.
Thought maybe I could buy some time just swapping the rear out, but it seems that bit me in the *** this time.
Thought maybe I could buy some time just swapping the rear out, but it seems that bit me in the *** this time.
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Joined: Mar 2009
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From: Tenn. and Mich.
Year: 2004
Model: Grand Cherokee
Engine: 4.7L V8
Sounds like me. I feel bad for you, but I'm sure you'll get satisfaction from that place.
On my ZJ I didn't consider swapping rears until after the shop had rebuilt my axle and I came on this site. Then I found out I could have installed a Ford 8.8" axle cheaper than they charged me for rebuilding the D44a. I knew very little about Jeeps before joining this site.
On my ZJ I didn't consider swapping rears until after the shop had rebuilt my axle and I came on this site. Then I found out I could have installed a Ford 8.8" axle cheaper than they charged me for rebuilding the D44a. I knew very little about Jeeps before joining this site.
Sounds like me. I feel bad for you, but I'm sure you'll get satisfaction from that place.
On my ZJ I didn't consider swapping rears until after the shop had rebuilt my axle and I came on this site. Then I found out I could have installed a Ford 8.8" axle cheaper than they charged me for rebuilding the D44a. I knew very little about Jeeps before joining this site.
On my ZJ I didn't consider swapping rears until after the shop had rebuilt my axle and I came on this site. Then I found out I could have installed a Ford 8.8" axle cheaper than they charged me for rebuilding the D44a. I knew very little about Jeeps before joining this site.
So I pulled the diff cover, cleaned the mating surfaces, cleaned out the bottom of the pumkin. No metal shavings or pieces whatsoever, but the fluid was low and black as night. I resealed the diff cover and replaced the diff oil. Did the slow figure eights to get everything circulated and road tested. Seems like the growl/hum is gone now. I am still getting a knock under the front end, and still have that pull to the right, but the rear finally seems right.
Now I need to figure out what's going on in the front. I know the shocks are shot, and the alignment is most likely out because of the **** to the left in the steering wheel. I jacked it up and did the wheel rock (up and down, and left to right) and both seem solid. However, when I spin the wheel back and forth (rotate) with the steering wheel lock engaged, I can hear a "clunking" when it hits the stop.
Now I need to figure out what's going on in the front. I know the shocks are shot, and the alignment is most likely out because of the **** to the left in the steering wheel. I jacked it up and did the wheel rock (up and down, and left to right) and both seem solid. However, when I spin the wheel back and forth (rotate) with the steering wheel lock engaged, I can hear a "clunking" when it hits the stop.
Old fart with a wrench
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From: Manlius, east of Syracuse, NY
Year: 2000 XJ Sport & WJ Laredo
Model: Grand Cherokee (WJ)
Engine: 4.0L
Take it to NTB for a front end alignment. They see what's wrong, write up this ridiculous estimate, you tell them you can't afford that, they take it off the lift and you drive away with a list of things that needs to be fixed.


