Project Heep'n AK
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I make garbage
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From: Alaska
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Bored over 4.0 with HO performance head
Thread Starter
I make garbage
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From: Alaska
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Bored over 4.0 with HO performance head
that was the plan... But it didn't quite pan out... I'll just pull the back glass if I want it open. Mine comes out pretty easy and goes back in in 5 mins
Thread Starter
I make garbage
Joined: Jul 2015
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From: Alaska
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Bored over 4.0 with HO performance head
Thread Starter
I make garbage
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 420
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From: Alaska
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Bored over 4.0 with HO performance head
Who said ya can't haul nothing in a chopped xj??? Anyways made it home with the tailgate!! Should be going on today
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From: Blunt, South Dakota
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.6 stroker
Okay...I've watched this thread now for a bit. I would like to give you some constructive criticism. I DO appreciate your enthusiasm. Not bashing you at all, but you are young, and I'm seeing some things being done that just isn't safe. EVERYTHING that follows is not only for your safety, but the safety of others on the road around you. Do what you want, but I can't let it go without warning, not only for you, but for anyone who may read this in the future.
This may take several posts. Bear with me.
First of all, you are running no bumpers to speak of, whatsoever. And you've blacked out your lenses. You need to focus on recovery points, especially considering where you live. And, if it's driven on the street at all, don't black out your safety markers. It's just not cricket.


Then you post these, and blame "people" who have messed with your lugnuts. You have had tires off and on several times, based on your pics. You screwed up. Own it. This is VERY dangerous not only to you, but others on the road...


Then you post this, saying it was so people could see you...

maybe if your lenses were not blacked out, they COULD see you. Not that it isn't a wise addition, just kinda makes the previous pics pointless...
This may take several posts. Bear with me.
First of all, you are running no bumpers to speak of, whatsoever. And you've blacked out your lenses. You need to focus on recovery points, especially considering where you live. And, if it's driven on the street at all, don't black out your safety markers. It's just not cricket.


Then you post these, and blame "people" who have messed with your lugnuts. You have had tires off and on several times, based on your pics. You screwed up. Own it. This is VERY dangerous not only to you, but others on the road...


Then you post this, saying it was so people could see you...

maybe if your lenses were not blacked out, they COULD see you. Not that it isn't a wise addition, just kinda makes the previous pics pointless...
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From: Blunt, South Dakota
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.6 stroker
Okay, continuing...
Let's talk about your chop. Cool mod. But you need to do it right. You have not. Our uniframe bodies rely on all of it to be safe. Start cutting, and you compromise this. It may not show up immediately, but trust me, flex that thing enough, and it WILL break...somewhere. And, it may not be evident. Once you cut, you should re-inforce IMMEDIATELY to keep issues from arising down the road...
You posted these, and I painted them to try to help you see what I'm talking about...



In bodywork, less bondo is more...the more metal you have the better. Bondo is meant to be used to fix slight imperfections in the bodywork, not major differences.
Let's talk about your chop. Cool mod. But you need to do it right. You have not. Our uniframe bodies rely on all of it to be safe. Start cutting, and you compromise this. It may not show up immediately, but trust me, flex that thing enough, and it WILL break...somewhere. And, it may not be evident. Once you cut, you should re-inforce IMMEDIATELY to keep issues from arising down the road...
You posted these, and I painted them to try to help you see what I'm talking about...



In bodywork, less bondo is more...the more metal you have the better. Bondo is meant to be used to fix slight imperfections in the bodywork, not major differences.
Last edited by Rogue4x4; Aug 16, 2015 at 02:52 PM.
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Year: 97
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.6 stroker
Okay. So, you say you flexed it:


Well, a one-time baby flex isn't enough to make a judgement on. Metal fatigue happens over time, ever taken a piece of copper wire, and bent it back and forth until it broke? Same principal. You won't see an immediate result. But, over time, you DEFINITELY will. This is also unsafe...imagine driving down the road, hearing a big BANG!!!, losing control, rolling and taking out a small family in the process...yes it can, and has, happened. And it could have been prevented.
Everything I posted here wasn't to degrade you. It's to try to keep you, and others around you, safe. When you mod your vehicle, you start a cascade of new failure points. You need to recognize these, and anticipate them. I just want to try and keep a fellow jeeper safe. And it isn't too late, while you have done some work, it can be undone and addressed properly. I suggest doing it now, before it gets out of hand. Chip out that bondo, get to fabrication, and reinforce that rear end. THEN you can proceed in making it right.
I hope I have helped you see the light. It is your jeep, and you can do with it as you please. But I for one, would like to see you do it SAFELY, for your sake, as well as others. Good luck.


Well, a one-time baby flex isn't enough to make a judgement on. Metal fatigue happens over time, ever taken a piece of copper wire, and bent it back and forth until it broke? Same principal. You won't see an immediate result. But, over time, you DEFINITELY will. This is also unsafe...imagine driving down the road, hearing a big BANG!!!, losing control, rolling and taking out a small family in the process...yes it can, and has, happened. And it could have been prevented.
Everything I posted here wasn't to degrade you. It's to try to keep you, and others around you, safe. When you mod your vehicle, you start a cascade of new failure points. You need to recognize these, and anticipate them. I just want to try and keep a fellow jeeper safe. And it isn't too late, while you have done some work, it can be undone and addressed properly. I suggest doing it now, before it gets out of hand. Chip out that bondo, get to fabrication, and reinforce that rear end. THEN you can proceed in making it right.
I hope I have helped you see the light. It is your jeep, and you can do with it as you please. But I for one, would like to see you do it SAFELY, for your sake, as well as others. Good luck.
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Joined: Feb 2011
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From: Blunt, South Dakota
Year: 97
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.6 stroker
Sorry about the small print on some of the pics...save them and view to read them if you have trouble...
Last edited by Rogue4x4; Aug 16, 2015 at 03:02 PM.
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Joined: Nov 2011
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From: Parham, ON
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
Let's talk about your chop. Cool mod. But you need to do it right. You have not. Our uniframe bodies rely on all of it to be safe. Start cutting, and you compromise this. It may not show up immediately, but trust me, flex that thing enough, and it WILL break...somewhere. And, it may not be evident. Once you cut, you should re-inforce IMMEDIATELY to keep issues from arising down the road...
What you want to do is junk that hatch and get a steel one, then weld it in properly.
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I make garbage
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From: Alaska
Year: 1992
Model: Cherokee
Engine: Bored over 4.0 with HO performance head
Wow.. Haha thanks for that!! The rear hoop was played inside and out and was not just sealed and attached with bondo lol, but I do see your point. As for no bumpers, mine were completely trashed and offered no structural support since at the time of purchase it had already been compromised. I do however plan on building front and rear bumpers when the money is available to me. As for the rear support a full hybrid cage will be built relatively soon, again when the money is available to me. Things in Alaska are definitely not cheap so things take time. But I completely understand what you are saying! Thanks for the feed back


