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Hahaha! Ok, they aren't treating me right!!!! They want $3,500 for a standard 4.0L! Lol! That's like $1k more expensive than everything else I've seen. I'm partly messing with you, but my jaw dropped when I heard that.
Alright let me see what kind of deal I can get him to make you. They are known to be expensive but its cause they do a good job. Or just ship me the motor. I got no problem building it. Did the one in my last XJ and going to do the one in my current XJ at some point. They remind me of building an old school small block Chevy.
Alright let me see what kind of deal I can get him to make you. They are known to be expensive but its cause they do a good job. Or just ship me the motor. I got no problem building it. Did the one in my last XJ and going to do the one in my current XJ at some point. They remind me of building an old school small block Chevy.
I'd probably take you up on that, but then it would be shipping from NH to CA then to MI. That'd be a chunk of change just for shipping. I'm not looking to make it happen immediately, just trying to see what I can find. My biggest thing is that it's quality.
I'd probably take you up on that, but then it would be shipping from NH to CA then to MI. That'd be a chunk of change just for shipping. I'm not looking to make it happen immediately, just trying to see what I can find. My biggest thing is that it's quality.
I vote that you take on the challenge and build it yourself! Engines are really not difficult to build. Just lots of measuring and torquing in sequence. Only a few special tools would be needed and you can get them pretty cheap. I think I will be doing a step by step write up with pictures when I build my Bugs engine. If I do, I would suggest reading it so you can see what I mean by easy.
Dude your lipos are probably junk by now! I assume you keep them in the garage? Do you store them 2/3 full? Freakin lipos are so picky when it comes to long term storage its not even funny. I have at least 50 bad ones that I am waiting to blow up. I always have like 3 RC cars with me when I take the Jeep out. Got to have something to do when you stop for a break!
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I keep them in the house and USED to keep a maintenance charge on them. Its been probably 6 months since they have had a charge on them.
Youre probably right about them being junk by now. Oh well, gotta pay to play.
I keep them in the house and USED to keep a maintenance charge on them. Its been probably 6 months since they have had a charge on them.
Youre probably right about them being junk by now. Oh well, gotta pay to play.
You should be fine then. Heat is the #1 killer. Even if you kept them at 1/2 charge, the shelf life is great and doubt they dropped that much. Now if you kept them close to 3 volts a cell, good luck.
At least if they are bad you can blow them up and enjoy a little fire show. Sometimes a very big fire show...
I vote that you take on the challenge and build it yourself! Engines are really not difficult to build. Just lots of measuring and torquing in sequence. Only a few special tools would be needed and you can get them pretty cheap. I think I will be doing a step by step write up with pictures when I build my Bugs engine. If I do, I would suggest reading it so you can see what I mean by easy.
I've been thinking of that too. I'm sure I could make it happen. Only problem is, I still run into having to find a shop that I trust doing the machine work to have the block on point.
I'd probably take you up on that, but then it would be shipping from NH to CA then to MI. That'd be a chunk of change just for shipping. I'm not looking to make it happen immediately, just trying to see what I can find. My biggest thing is that it's quality.
I hope it is OK to chime in as this is not exactly specific to your build. (let me know and I'll delete this post)
Rebuilding a engine is pretty intimidating for most of us that have little experience doing so. My son in law works at a repair shop and he say you can't bet these guys. They offer a pretty incredible warranty to boot. I have been eyeing one because my XJ has always had a noise knock in it. It just keeps on ticking.
I hope it is OK to chime in as this is not exactly specific to your build. (let me know and I'll delete this post)
Rebuilding a engine is pretty intimidating for most of us that have little experience doing so. My son in law works at a repair shop and he say you can't bet these guys. They offer a pretty incredible warranty to boot. I have been eyeing one because my XJ has always had a noise knock in it. It just keeps on ticking.
So I havent been posting much on the Jeep since there really is nothing to post about. It has been doing just fine until the other day. I started to get an odd clicking sounds when braking harder then normal. I also had some odd vibes going on. So I did some noggin pokin and came to the conclusion that it was the driveshaft. After talking to the guys over at Adams Driveshaft, they agreed. The original one they built for me was too short. So I took some measurements, shot them over to Adams and a few days later had a new shaft. You can see the length difference in them.
I slapped the new one in and took it for a spin. No more odd vibes and no more clicking. It sits right where it should now. Still need to do a freeway test.
And of course, I had to take it to the top of the street to make sure it really worked and wasnt going to fall off. It does not clunk any more when shifting or going from off the gas to back on the gas. Overall success! Highly recommend anyone looking for a driveshaft to go to Adams!
On another note, I think I am going to be replacing my front spring. 3 reasons why. #1 they are stiff. #2 the rear sits higher then the front still. #3 they pull way too far out of the bucket when flexing. So I am going to do 4.5" springs this time. I am looking for something that has a softer spring rate and is quite a bit longer then my current spring. I know the RE 4.5" spring has a better rate and is longer but are there any better options out there? Are some 4.5" springs longer then others?
Metalcloak dual rate? Seems like what you're looking for, except I don't know the spring rate. Kinda weird, but they said it was proprietary.
That is a good idea! I looked at them and it seems like that is what I am looking for. While searching, I also found this list.
OEM Old man EMU XJ is supposedly 142-147 lb/in rate. 17" length 5.25" diameter
OEM ZJ with 4.0 is supposedly 190 lb/in rate front and rear.
OME 930 coils: 160 lb. spring rate. 1.75" of lift on XJ
OME 934 coils: 180 lb. spring rate.The 934 spring is 35 mm (1.37") longer than the 930 spring.
The 930 is listed as a XJ or ZJ I-6 spring and the 934 is listed as a ZJ V-8 spring but is also used on the XJ. the 934 should give about 2.5in lift.
Tera 4" TJ coils have a 200 lb/in rate , 20.25" tall unloaded
Tera 3" TJ coils have a 170 lb/in rate
RE Rubicon Express 4.5in ZJ coils are 240 lb/in. give 5.5" ish of lift on an XJ 22" tall unloaded
RE 5.5XJ coils are 4.5ZJ coils.
Rusty's 6.5" 22" long, 12 wraps of 5/16" stock
Rusty's 4.5" coils give 5" of lift and have a 150 lb/in rate, 22" tall unloaded
Rustys 3" coils give 3" and have 150 lb/in rate.
Rancho 3" coils, at least the old coils give about 2 1/4" of lift on an XJ and have a very high 235 lb/in rate.
Rockkrawler 6.5" are 165 lbs/in
SJ Sky Jacker 3" ZJ coils 218 lbs/in
SJ 6in XJ RR coil is 13 coils and same height and thickness as the RE ZJ4.5in XJ5.5in coil.
XJ front springs
OEM is supposedly 147 lb/in rate.
Tera 4" TJ coils give 4.5" of lift on an XJ and have a 200 lb/in rate , 20.25" tall unloaded
Tera 3" TJ coils give 3.5" of lift on an XJ and have a 170 lb/in rate
Rusty's 4.5" coils give 5" of lift and have a 150 lb/in rate, 22" tall unloaded
RE's 4.5" ZJ coils give 6"-6.25" of lift on an XJ and have a 200 lb/in rate, 22" tall unloaded (RE ZJ coils are 240 lb/in)
Rustys 3" coils give 3" and have 150 lb/in rate.
Rancho 3" coils, at least the old coils give about 2 1/4" of lift on an XJ and have a very high 235 lb/in rate.
OME coils give 2.25" - 2.5" of lift and have a 148 lb/in rate
From TeraFlex customer service email to T.N. (June 2004):
TJ springs
SR3T- Free length= 15" Spring rate= 190
SR4T- Free length= 15.38" Spring rate= 210
SF3T- Free length= 19.5" Spring rate= 170
SF4T- Free length= 20.25" Spring rate= 200
From Rubicon Express customer service email to T.N. (November 2004):
The 3.5" TJ fronts are approximately 240 pounds per inch. Uncompressed free
length is 19"
The 4.5" TJ fronts are approximately 219 pounds per inch. Uncompressed free
length is 19.75"
Here's one I've accumulated over the years from various peoples postings. Take it with grain of salt....
Spring Coil Rates:
Tera 4" TJ coils give 4.5" of lift on an XJ and have a 200 lb/in rate , 20.25" tall unloaded
Tera 3" TJ coils give 3.5" of lift on an XJ and have a 170 lb/in rate
Rusty's 4.5" coils give 5" of lift and have a 150 lb/in rate, 22" tall unloaded
RE's 4.5" ZJ coils give 6"-6.25" of lift on an XJ and have a 200 lb/in rate, 22" tall unloaded
Rustys 3" coils give 3" and have 150 lb/in rate.
Rancho 3" coils, at least the old coils I had give about 2 1/4" of lift on an XJ and have a very high 235 lb/in rate.
OEM is supposedly 147 lb/in rate.
OME coils give 2.25" - 2.5" of lift and have a 148 lb/in rate
I have a 1995 jeep cherokee xj and it was 2 wheel drive well i am converting it to 4 wheel drive wit a 1998 transmision and transfer case and now its acting really sluggish and doesnt want to drive.... it will reverse just fine but wen u put it in drive ut acceleration is really slow. Plz help me????
Yeah, I've seen that list myself. I think unless you have plans for a bumper and winch that anything over 200 lbs/in is overkill. I think something close to 180 lbs/in is good otherwise.
I don't know if this is true or not, I just feel this way based off of having the OME 930 coils (160 lbs/in). They make for a nice ride, but too much body roll. 80% of the reason I'm going with metalcloak coils.
That is a very good point. Mine has no sway bars and honestly does not have much body roll. My buddies with stock springs and no sway bars is kinda scary to drive. But its like a marshmallow off road.
